Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[Compass]

JamesNursey James Nursey
87th minute. Villa's FIRST shot on target.....from defender James Collins. Shocking stat

At home against a Bolton reserve side.

There's NO excuses to see a performance like this. The board and McLeish really need to fuck off. Start again. And the kids should kick themselves for not delivering even at a decent level.

I expect our club do the honourable thing and refund all the fans who had to see that rubbish tonight.

[Villanation]

The writing's on the wall, we are out of the only competition at the first real shout of asking, forget the FA Cup, QPR will lap this up and be well buoyed.

Another hard hard and boring season ahead. 

[Jimbo]

At least it didn't go to extra time, because we'll need that extra bit of energy against a superior footballing side like QPR. Could be tricky, but don't worry because it'll all come good once Jermaine Jenas is fit. Jermaine Jenas. Jer-maine Je-nas.

[ozzjim]

Absolutely bloody horrendous by the sounds of it. The board have completely ruined us as a club, cutting back in this fashion is suicidal. There is no leadership from the top and we are in massive massive trouble. Joke.

Sums it up.

On the pitch we have a decent enough back 4, great keeper, top striker and Gabby and NZogbia, then NOTHING in the centre of the park. No heart and no soul, and everything seems an effort.

Houllier had a plan, an idea as much as people did not like him. Now I feel like there is no long term plan at all. We need some direction from the top, and McLeish can't last past Christmas if we keep playing like this, as it will be too late. He has got 2 sides relegated, he WILL NOT turn it around as it slides. fucking shocking. Had enough.

[JJ-AV]

Would like McLeish to be sacked.

Why can so many fans not see the wood for the trees?! McLeish is not the problem. The clowns who appointed him and gave him less than a third of the money raised from sales are the ones to blame.

He's not the sole problem, but he's one of them. He's not very good.

We're not gonna get new owners, Randy isn't gonna find £100m down the back of the sofa, but we are capable of attracting a better manager.

[eric woolban woolban]

You've got to blame the guy at the top.

Ellis brought in O'Neill.

Lerner brings in Houllier and then tops that with McLeish.

Who next? Jossie Blair?

[pauliewalnuts]

It says something that we are unbeaten in the first five league games yet a pallor of grim depression hangs over the club.

Mismanagement from the top, I'm afraid, from an absentee owner who I suspect doesnt care too much, and clearly knows not the first thing about running a football club.

I can't remember the last time it all felt so futile and miserable.

[TaxDodger]

Didn't sound great did it?  Will reserve judgement til those that went down tonight give a verdict. 

What's even more depressing than going out this early is that there will now be some kind of "McLeish Out" thing happening all on the basis of one defeat.  It will be stoked up by the tabloid press and radio.

Some moron starting a thread calling for AM to get the boot after one defeat.  One.  People on the match thread calling both the owner and the manager a 'c***' or a bluenose.  Pathetic.

Exactly. Calling for the managers head after we lose one game is ridiculous regardless of how awful we were.

[eric woolban woolban]

He's not the sole problem, but he's one of them. He's not very good.

Something fishy going on.

[lovejoy]

If we sack McL we will end up with somebody even worse. Remember the fiasco in July?

[TheSandman]

Didn't sound great did it?  Will reserve judgement til those that went down tonight give a verdict. 

What's even more depressing than going out this early is that there will now be some kind of "McLeish Out" thing happening all on the basis of one defeat.  It will be stoked up by the tabloid press and radio.

Some moron starting a thread calling for AM to get the boot after one defeat.  One.  People on the match thread calling both the owner and the manager a 'c***' or a bluenose.  Pathetic.

Indeed. The overreaction machine has been turned up to 11.

[tarzansbrother]

People will point to it being one game and not to get carried away etc, but tonight is simply a microchosm of what we can expect under Alex McLeish, dour, defensive, clueless shit.  Only he could turn a 20 goal a season banker striker into someone who looks as if he has never played before.

Spot on. We got shay given because Man C wouldn't sell him to a competitor like Arsenal. He pissed his pot on Nzogbia when he needed 2 midfielders.

[Villanation]

The knock on effect of this kind of thing can be immense, I guarantee players like Darren Bent are already considering there options, and not only him.

[JUAN PABLO]

If Mcleish went , Lerner would only get Peter Reid in ..

[PaulWinch again]

The board is the problem very clearly, not the manager. You sell our best two players, then you sell/loan our first choice right back, one of our few centre midfielders on top of releasing a load of players. You then give the manager a fraction of the money to replace them with, you are going to be fucked. That's what we are and it is the board's fault.