Sometimes, when people talk about Ashley Young, I think they're talking about an entirely different player.How can anyone accuse him of lack of effort last season? You can accuse him of a few things, but lack of effort is the last thing I'd ever throw at him
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 19, 2011, 02:17:49 PMSometimes, when people talk about Ashley Young, I think they're talking about an entirely different player.How can anyone accuse him of lack of effort last season? You can accuse him of a few things, but lack of effort is the last thing I'd ever throw at himAgreed.
Quote from: JJ-AV on September 19, 2011, 04:59:57 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 19, 2011, 02:17:49 PMSometimes, when people talk about Ashley Young, I think they're talking about an entirely different player.How can anyone accuse him of lack of effort last season? You can accuse him of a few things, but lack of effort is the last thing I'd ever throw at himAgreed.Well being a student in the art of reality, I'd say that Ashley Young came across last season as being petulant, a spoilt brat who wasn't getting his own way and inclined to argue the toss with referees for the slightest reason.( The real reason Fergie bought him?)Okay, he may have been frustrated with the way things were going on and off the pitch, but it was plain to see that he didn't want to play for The Villa any more and his goal celebrations spoke volumes when he would just walk away as if to say " I've scored so what".Having said all that I must admit that his time with us before last season was well worth the entrance money.
Quote from: The Laughing Policeman on September 19, 2011, 06:23:32 PMQuote from: JJ-AV on September 19, 2011, 04:59:57 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 19, 2011, 02:17:49 PMSometimes, when people talk about Ashley Young, I think they're talking about an entirely different player.How can anyone accuse him of lack of effort last season? You can accuse him of a few things, but lack of effort is the last thing I'd ever throw at himAgreed.Well being a student in the art of reality, I'd say that Ashley Young came across last season as being petulant, a spoilt brat who wasn't getting his own way and inclined to argue the toss with referees for the slightest reason.( The real reason Fergie bought him?)Okay, he may have been frustrated with the way things were going on and off the pitch, but it was plain to see that he didn't want to play for The Villa any more and his goal celebrations spoke volumes when he would just walk away as if to say " I've scored so what".Having said all that I must admit that his time with us before last season was well worth the entrance money.He was petulant 80% of the time, but in that other 20% he would track back, be eager for the ball, whip in a cracking cross, create something from nothing or whip in a nifty free kick.
Funnily enough he is playing wide for manu and looks fantastic... Can you see that Mr Houlier?
Quote from: London Villan on September 19, 2011, 06:54:27 PMFunnily enough he is playing wide for manu and looks fantastic... Can you see that Mr Houlier?I might be mistaken but didn;t Young always bang on about his best position being a free role?
Quote from: Irish villain on September 19, 2011, 04:21:04 PMThe more time that passes, the worse his mistakes look.It's called hindsight. A more nuanced view might take into account that he tried to have us playing decent football, that he experienced one of the worst injury crisis in living memory and that several players didn't actually spend the pre-season getting into shape. Some of his ideas were good, but his implementation was poor. But to say that Houllier was crap, or a disaster, is biased and one-sided, to say the least, and there is yet little indication that we are better off without him. (People might like to point to our improved defence, but we conceded 12 goals in the last 10 matches of the Houllier/GMac period, which is not much worse than 4 in 5 matches if you factor in the turgid performances and the quality of the opposition so far this season.)
The more time that passes, the worse his mistakes look.
He won us points. And alot of them. And we're no seeing the difference in class between him and N'Zogbia. Those who didn't like Ash must surely now see his class?