Job Losses At The Club

[Villa'Zawg]

It's still probably a couple of thousand quid a week, which is a lot for a business of this size.

If you paid that couple of thousand quid a week for 100 years, you wouldn't spend as much as the board charged the club for a single year of management fees and interest charges.

As I asked when they decided to stop rewarding staff with free cup match tickets and stopped providing Lion Club chairmen with a match programme, what is going on in the minds of the board to make them believe that cutting these relatively minuscule costs is a good thing to do? The question is even more relevant when/if they result in the dismissal of long-serving club employees from the staff canteen.

[KRS]

Not surprised about the pub closing on non-match days...more surprised that it was actually open given that there would obviously be no custom there. Cant comment on the staff restaurant as I've never heard of it, dont know where it is or what its purpose is.

I would be happy to pay a couple of quid to get into the Holte pub or suite on match days, but as a non-season ticket holder I gave up trying. They've brought these problems on themselves.

[Steve R]

He ha a 5 year plan but it hasn't gone to plan.
Thinking about it what's the Point, we are not a big club if you think about it. We have not got the support to be able to compete with the likes of even Spurs.

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Yup, I guess would should let the big boys get on with the serious stuff, and accept our natural position in the order of things alongside other the minnows such as ... clicky

At least when certain players contracts run down and we have to replace them with something cheaper we will be able to do so without sacrificing too much by way of quality.

[TimTheVillain]

All departments are been forced into cuts .But are still top heavy with managment .There now seems to be a problem with the tvs in the boxes .There is no freview boxes for the digital switchover .So the boxes might have no tvs on saturday

Now there's a surprise.

We'll be having hot Fosters in the Upper Trinity next

Why do the fans have the answers when the club employs so many ( theoretically) competent people ?

[Greg N'Ash]

pubs are having a rough time even if they have a good catchment area. In hindsight it was always going to be a white elephant and i don't think they thought it through really

[PaulTheVillan]

How do pubs like The Adventurers do on non match days?

[lordmcgrath5]

Just a shame that one weeks salary of some of our players would pay a full years wages for a few of the staff loosing jobs.

It's about time the players (not just ours) took a long hard look at themselves and there wage structure and gave themselves a reality check.

Absolutely right. How about the self-appointed twitterati like Rio Ferdinand pondering this issue? After all, he's what passes for an intellectual among footballers. Some grasp of what reality means for the rest of the nation in the current economic circumstances would be nice. You're never going to get this from the feather-bedded money grabbers at the PFA, who have clearly looked on approvingly as huge sums of money have gone into football over the Sky years and gone straight back out again to players and agents. Players recognising that their wages are ludicrous and saying so would be a good start. But then we need some regulation - salary caps, rules about reinvesting in clubs, communities and youth development and so on.

[MarkM]

All departments are been forced into cuts .But are still top heavy with managment .There now seems to be a problem with the tvs in the boxes .There is no freview boxes for the digital switchover .So the boxes might have no tvs on saturday

Now there's a surprise.

We'll be having hot Fosters in the Upper Trinity next

Why do the fans have the answers when the club employs so many ( theoretically) competent people ?

I refer to the 'peter principle'

Which states that "In an organisation employees rise to there own level of incompetence"

[lordmcgrath5]

Not really, for a company which turns over nigh on 100 million pounds a year.

Most of which goes straight out in player wages. if you take that & transfer fees out of the equation, football clubs are not big businesses.

Agree, but that's the problem with the football business plan, isn't it? Vast amounts of money in and straight out the door again. There is nothing in the Sky contract to say that all the money they provide has got to go to players and agents. It's about time this started to be exposed at a high level for the ludicrous nonsense it is. We need a concerted effort from a number of clubs (the FA or the Premier League governing bodies have no interest in this) to say they're going to be doing things differently.

[Chris Smith]

Absolutely wages are too high but unfortunately we as fans don't help. We recognise the problem but all look the other way when the prospect of a good signing comes along.

[Dante Lavelli]

Absolutely wages are too high but unfortunately we as fans don't help. We recognise the problem but all look the other way when the prospect of a good signing comes along.

That's an interesting point.  There is no doubt that there is a "want it now" culture amongst football fans and probably more generally.  I was listening to TalkSport the other day and a pundit was reviewing the spurs squad saying that they weren't good enough because they lacked strength in depth, basically implying that the spurs fans should be disappointed.  There was no acknowledgment of any sort of financial reality.

On the flip side, in the past transfer window there were definitely some voices saying I'd prefer us to sign no-one rather than exasperate our situation signing more players.  This was a small change and a sign that us fans maybe becoming more patient.

[Greg N'Ash]

Absolutely wages are too high but unfortunately we as fans don't help. We recognise the problem but all look the other way when the prospect of a good signing comes along.

That's an interesting point.  There is no doubt that there is a "want it now" culture amongst football fans and probably more generally.  I was listening to TalkSport the other day and a pundit was reviewing the spurs squad saying that they weren't good enough because they lacked strength in depth, basically implying that the spurs fans should be disappointed.  There was no acknowledgment of any sort of financial reality.

On the flip side, in the past transfer window there were definitely some voices saying I'd prefer us to sign no-one rather than exasperate our situation signing more players.  This was a small change and a sign that us fans maybe becoming more patient.

yep. considering the Greece style cuts i think most Villa fans have handled the extreme lowering of our ambitions rather well. My problem is having a billionaire running the club like a cornershop. What's the point of having a rich owner if he doesn't spend anything? You might as well have someone poorer who at least is actually there day to day.

[lordmcgrath5]

Absolutely wages are too high but unfortunately we as fans don't help. We recognise the problem but all look the other way when the prospect of a good signing comes along.

Indeed, that's very true. But if a number of clubs were prepared to outline a concerted, well argued case for restraint, or just to come out publicly and say that the current system is madness and is not benefiting anyone except players and their agents, it would help to put things into context. I'm personally not jealous of Man City, for example, at all - I think their longstanding fans must feel as if their club's been hijacked, and anyone being honest would have to feel a little embarrassed about how their meteoric rise up the league has been achieved.

[Irish villain]

Very sad news. It's always the little guy who suffers most.

[Greg N'Ash]

Absolutely wages are too high but unfortunately we as fans don't help. We recognise the problem but all look the other way when the prospect of a good signing comes along.

Indeed, that's very true. But if a number of clubs were prepared to outline a concerted, well argued case for restraint, or just to come out publicly and say that the current system is madness and is not benefiting anyone except players and their agents, it would help to put things into context. I'm personally not jealous of Man City, for example, at all - I think their longstanding fans must feel as if their club's been hijacked, and anyone being honest would have to feel a little embarrassed about how their meteoric rise up the league has been achieved.

you reckon? I don't think they care, anymore than we did when we were pushing the boat out, albiet to a lesser extent. You can go back 100 years and there was clubs spending big on transfers compared to their rivals. Only thing thats changed is the amount of noughts