Emile's injury

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Why wish ill on Heskey I don't know as he plays (or is employed at least) for the Villa? He has never bad mouthed us (or any other of his clubs as far as I know). We have a thin enough squad so can't afford injuries - cast your minds back to the middle of last season.

Yes he is probably one of the most frustrating players over the last 15 years. He was perfect physical article as a teenager including one day when he ripped Southgate a new arsehole at VP but never really kicked on thereafter and that is all up top.

Remember this - he has contributed more to Villa than the self professed Villa Worshipper Collymore ever did.

A quick wiki reveals that Heskey has managed overall 14 goals in 3 and a half years, whereas Collymore scored 15 in 3 years. So although he is a much nicer bloke than Collymore, and has more than likely appeared in the shirt more times, contribution is to be debated.

Great point .......

[VillaAlways]

MCleish has confirmed on OS that Emile out for 2-3 weeks maybe longer. Jenas out for Newcastle but hoping fit for Bolton and Lichaj 3-4 months out following hip operation

[Dante Lavelli]

MCleish has confirmed on OS that Emile out for 2-3 weeks maybe longer. Jenas out for Newcastle but hoping fit for Bolton and Lichaj 3-4 months out following hip operation

This is a great opportunity for Bannan.  Come on the wee man, time to step up!

[pedro25]

I think Bannan will play on Saturday but after that Jenas will take that spot until Heskey's back.  Ireland seems miles away from the starting 11 now, as he'd be behind all 3 of them and Albrighton too for a place in the team.

[Olneythelonely]

There comes a time when you have to bow to the weight of professional opinion. He's played all of his career in the PL, he's been regularly picked be top rated managers, he's been praised by top level team mates and has a shelf loaded down with England caps.

If you take all of that and still think he's shit then it suggests that you don't understand the game as well as you think you do. To my mind it's what he does for the team that is what they all see in him, the way he occupies defenders and shoulders a huge part of the physical burden and let's others get on with doing it.

Think he is shit because he is shit.

Are you a moron because I think you are?

[Fergal]

There comes a time when you have to bow to the weight of professional opinion. He's played all of his career in the PL, he's been regularly picked be top rated managers, he's been praised by top level team mates and has a shelf loaded down with England caps.

If you take all of that and still think he's shit then it suggests that you don't understand the game as well as you think you do. To my mind it's what he does for the team that is what they all see in him, the way he occupies defenders and shoulders a huge part of the physical burden and let's others get on with doing it.

Think he is shit because he is shit.

Are you a moron because I think you are?

Come on guys, be reasonable.

[TonyD]

There comes a time when you have to bow to the weight of professional opinion. He's played all of his career in the PL, he's been regularly picked be top rated managers, he's been praised by top level team mates and has a shelf loaded down with England caps.

If you take all of that and still think he's shit then it suggests that you don't understand the game as well as you think you do. To my mind it's what he does for the team that is what they all see in him, the way he occupies defenders and shoulders a huge part of the physical burden and let's others get on with doing it.

Think he is shit because he is shit.

Are you a moron because I think you are?

Just because I don't agree with other people's opinion of a player hardly qualifies me as a moron.

[Concrete John]

Why wish ill on Heskey I don't know as he plays (or is employed at least) for the Villa? He has never bad mouthed us (or any other of his clubs as far as I know). We have a thin enough squad so can't afford injuries - cast your minds back to the middle of last season.

Yes he is probably one of the most frustrating players over the last 15 years. He was perfect physical article as a teenager including one day when he ripped Southgate a new arsehole at VP but never really kicked on thereafter and that is all up top.

Remember this - he has contributed more to Villa than the self professed Villa Worshipper Collymore ever did.

A quick wiki reveals that Heskey has managed overall 14 goals in 3 and a half years, whereas Collymore scored 15 in 3 years. So although he is a much nicer bloke than Collymore, and has more than likely appeared in the shirt more times, contribution is to be debated.

Great point .......

The difference is that unless SVC scored he gave us nothing else, where as Heskey does.

[Concrete John]

Just because I don't agree with other people's opinion of a player hardly qualifies me as a moron.

And just because you think he's shit doesn't mean he is, especially considering how highly he's rated by people within the game.

[not3bad]

Why wish ill on Heskey I don't know as he plays (or is employed at least) for the Villa? He has never bad mouthed us (or any other of his clubs as far as I know). We have a thin enough squad so can't afford injuries - cast your minds back to the middle of last season.

Yes he is probably one of the most frustrating players over the last 15 years. He was perfect physical article as a teenager including one day when he ripped Southgate a new arsehole at VP but never really kicked on thereafter and that is all up top.

Remember this - he has contributed more to Villa than the self professed Villa Worshipper Collymore ever did.

A quick wiki reveals that Heskey has managed overall 14 goals in 3 and a half years, whereas Collymore scored 15 in 3 years. So although he is a much nicer bloke than Collymore, and has more than likely appeared in the shirt more times, contribution is to be debated.

Great point .......

The difference is that unless SVC scored he gave us nothing else, where as Heskey does.

That point is patently untrue for the famous "Father Christmas" game when we came back from 2-0 to beat Arsenal.  It was Collymore coming on as substitute that changed the game, although he didn't score.

[Richie]

Totally agree with M'Zog.

In some fan's eyes, Collymore could do no wrong and Heskey has been rubbish since day one.

Unless Collymore was interested (and I can only remember Liverpool and A.Madrid at home in 97/98), we might as well have had 10 men on the pitch.

For a transfer fee that in todays money in football would be the equivalent of around £25 million - that's not good enough in my opinion.

Heskey was around £2 million, has never been an out and out goalscorer, and has always given his all.

[Richie]

N'ot3badbia - agreed. I'd forgot the impact he had in the Arsenal match.

But I'm struggling to think of any more.

To be honest, thats the most frustrating thing. The odd glimpse of magic that we all knew he had that happened once in a bluemoon.

[Concrete John]

Why wish ill on Heskey I don't know as he plays (or is employed at least) for the Villa? He has never bad mouthed us (or any other of his clubs as far as I know). We have a thin enough squad so can't afford injuries - cast your minds back to the middle of last season.

Yes he is probably one of the most frustrating players over the last 15 years. He was perfect physical article as a teenager including one day when he ripped Southgate a new arsehole at VP but never really kicked on thereafter and that is all up top.

Remember this - he has contributed more to Villa than the self professed Villa Worshipper Collymore ever did.

A quick wiki reveals that Heskey has managed overall 14 goals in 3 and a half years, whereas Collymore scored 15 in 3 years. So although he is a much nicer bloke than Collymore, and has more than likely appeared in the shirt more times, contribution is to be debated.

Great point .......

The difference is that unless SVC scored he gave us nothing else, where as Heskey does.

That point is patently untrue for the famous "Father Christmas" game when we came back from 2-0 to beat Arsenal.  It was Collymore coming on as substitute that changed the game, although he didn't score.

I remember the game so won't argue, but for me that was the exception.  He used to just stand out on the left wing wating for the ball so he could cut in on his right and have a shot.  Hardly one for general team play and work ethic.

[Chris Jameson]

Heskey was around £2 million

£3.5 million plus his £60,000 a week wages. Don't wish ill on the guy but I do wish i'd never had the pleasure of watching him in an Aston Villa shirt as I think he's useless. I realise this means I know next to nothing about professional football but I can live with that.

[Concrete John]

I never saw the fee as a problem with Heskey.  Taking away opinions of the player for a minute, it was quite moderate for an expereinced PL player and England international.  However, we did put him on too much money.