Bent and Given Injuries

[Villanation]

Bent has averaged a goal every other game for Villa & Gabby 1 in 3.7.

Bent hasn't completed one season yet, Gabby has completed 4/5, Gabby spent the whole of last season out of position or injured, whilst Bent has been afforded the luxury of consistency by both Houllier and McLiesh in what he has to do in his work.........stick Bent out on the left wing and see how fast his goal ratio drops through the floor........Even so by the end of this season you'll be seeing a very different goal ratio from Darren Bent, hope I'm wrong because if Bent is keeping up that ratio then that would mean we are at least challenging to win games, somehow I doubt it.

You can no sooner compare stats on Gabby v Bent any more than you can judge them to be similar  players, both very different other than they are attacking players.

Not a fan of Darren then?

No problem whatsoever with Darren Bent, solid player, when he's done his tour of duty and earned his stripes as Gabby has and scored his 20+ this season as his 20ML+ figure commands then I will lavish hype on him, not yet though, he's got some work to do...

[midnite]

Personally I think you're being a bit harsh on Bent. I see what you're saying regarding earning his stripes compared to Gabby but Bent's record speaks for itself... It's not like we signed Andy Carrol for £35 million

[villadelph]

He's saved our season, be grateful.

[midnite]

Not that i want to speak for Villanation, but take it easy villadelph.

[villadelph]

Not that i want to speak for Villanation, but take it easy villadelph.

Edited, apologies.

[oldtimernow]

To me the groin injury is football's equivalent of I can't do swimming cos of my period excuse.

If I remember Andy Gray suffered a lot of this type of injury prior to his departure from the club.....

[villadelph]

To me the groin injury is football's equivalent of I can't do swimming cos of my period excuse.

If I remember Andy Gray suffered a lot of this type of injury prior to his departure from the club.....

I completely disagree. While a groin strain/pull is not the most serious injury, it is one of those injuries that never goes away. Just when you think you're over it, it springs back up. I'm confident he can play through it, but I want him to be at full health also.

[spangley1812]

Bent trained today apparently...........

[DrGonzo]

To me the groin injury is football's equivalent of I can't do swimming cos of my period excuse.

If I remember Andy Gray suffered a lot of this type of injury prior to his departure from the club.....

Having just come back from the hospital with the boy who strained his groin playing football this morning I can confirm it hurts like feck.  The poor lad was white as a sheet andin agony for hours while we waited for a paramedic to get there. 4-6 weeks before he can play sport, so no it's not a made up injury.

 Another gripe why can't schools administer pain killers anymore?? Ridiculous.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

To me the groin injury is football's equivalent of I can't do swimming cos of my period excuse.

Sorry, that's complete rubbish

[oldtimernow]

You are missing my point...whilst agreeing a groin injury can be painful ..I know I've had one...it can also be a very useful excuse type of injury....dont remember Gray having too many problems after he left

[TheSandman]

He's probably trying to rest so that he can stay fit for the Everton game.

[Toronto Villa]

Bent has averaged a goal every other game for Villa & Gabby 1 in 3.7.

Bent hasn't completed one season yet, Gabby has completed 4/5, Gabby spent the whole of last season out of position or injured, whilst Bent has been afforded the luxury of consistency by both Houllier and McLiesh in what he has to do in his work.........stick Bent out on the left wing and see how fast his goal ratio drops through the floor........Even so by the end of this season you'll be seeing a very different goal ratio from Darren Bent, hope I'm wrong because if Bent is keeping up that ratio then that would mean we are at least challenging to win games, somehow I doubt it.

You can no sooner compare stats on Gabby v Bent any more than you can judge them to be similar  players, both very different other than they are attacking players.

Not a fan of Darren then?

No problem whatsoever with Darren Bent, solid player, when he's done his tour of duty and earned his stripes as Gabby has and scored his 20+ this season as his 20ML+ figure commands then I will lavish hype on him, not yet though, he's got some work to do...

blimey. I love Gabby as much as the next bloke, but that's utter madness, with all due respect. Gabby's has a lot of strengths that go unappreciated, but he's not in the same league, or even the one below when it comes to being a pure striker like Bent. There's only a few players who have ever been as prolific and you can count them on one hand. And all of those played for much better sides.

[Villanation]

@TVilla. Your missing my point Toronto Villa, Just because Darren Bent as performed for other clubs and in front of other teams doesn't for one second mean he will perform that way in front of a Villa midfield, how many top players can you think of that go to other clubs with sparkling reputations, even World Class to be proved near useless, ever heard of Torres. I am saying that Darren Bent's job just got a lot harder and for all the stat heads out there, you'll be getting a completely different appraisal of the player, assuming he hasn't got p*ssed of with it and stuck himself on the transfer list, which he's well capable of doing.

As for my point about Gabby, he's only ever kicked a ball for Villa and in front of a Villa team (other than U21+ a full cap) how can you compare player for player in terms of there stat's, that is of course unless you are prepared to see Darren Bent stuck out wide left for the next season and then see how his goal tally compares, yes Darren Bent is a more traditional goal poacher front man and thus a more natural goal scorer, doesn't mean for one second other teams won't adapt and deal with him, but to say one player is simply not in the other players league when it comes to goal scoring, when the one player doesn't even play there any more is a nonsense, and if that's the case then I dare say if I'm correct you be back on here at season end if Bent has only notched up 15/16 goals for the season you'll be saying he's not a good striker after all and we need to get someone better.

And for the 1 or 2 paranoid posters I'm not having a pop at Darren Bent, wonderful striker, but how many times do you see deluded footy fans dream up this crazy idea's of what a player is capable of only to see it shot down in flames the next season.

Was actually reading on a Chelsea  thread about Torres, when they paid 50ML for him he was not only better than Messi he was world No1, now they are saying how friggin useless he is and he is a complete waste of money and should have been sold in the summer

[villadelph]

@TVilla. Your missing my point Toronto Villa, Just because Darren Bent as performed for other clubs and in front of other teams doesn't for one second mean he will perform that way in front of a Villa midfield, how many top players can you think of that go to other clubs with sparkling reputations, even World Class to be proved near useless, ever heard of Torres. I am saying that Darren Bent's job just got a lot harder and for all the stat heads out there, you'll be getting a completely different appraisal of the player, assuming he hasn't got p*ssed of with it and stuck himself on the transfer list, which he's well capable of doing.

As for my point about Gabby, he's only ever kicked a ball for Villa and in front of a Villa team (other than U21+ a full cap) how can you compare player for player in terms of there stat's, that is of course unless you are prepared to see Darren Bent stuck out wide left for the next season and then see how his goal tally compares, yes Darren Bent is a more traditional goal poacher front man and thus a more natural goal scorer, doesn't mean for one second other teams won't adapt and deal with him, but to say one player is simply not in the other players league when it comes to goal scoring, when the one player doesn't even play there any more is a nonsense, and if that's the case then I dare say if I'm correct you be back on here at season end if Bent has only notched up 15/16 goals for the season you'll be saying he's not a good striker after all and we need to get someone better.

And for the 1 or 2 paranoid posters I'm not having a pop at Darren Bent, wonderful striker, but how many times do you see deluded footy fans dream up this crazy idea's of what a player is capable of only to see it shot down in flames the next season.

Was actually reading on a Chelsea  thread about Torres, when they paid 50ML for him he was not only better than Messi he was world No1, now they are saying how friggin useless he is and he is a complete waste of money and should have been sold in the summer

You're opinion is irrelevant to me at this point. He scored for us at will last campaign, and was one of the sole reasons we stayed up. I understand you're not slagging him off but what evidence do you have that he's not good enough?! He's a proven striker in the prem, whether you take into account his goal tally in the past 5 years or his promising future with a club he enjoys playing at. You're speaking absolute rubbish mate.