The Big Ecks welcome to VP barometer

[pauliewalnuts]

Some of our supporters hate Small Heath more than they support the Villa.

I don't know why anyone would begrudge us that afternoon of pleasure.

it was the last day of a truly wretched season, the sun was out, we'd just beaten Liverpool (which is almost up there with breaking the Deloitte Top 20 in terms of achievements) and our hated local rivals had got relegated.

I don't hate Blues more than I support Villa, but I do hate them, and consider it my duty as a football supporter to revel in their misfortune.

I hope there's much more of it to come.

[Clampy]

There's a blue nose who rings up Radio WM on occasions and without fail, she'll have at the dig at us. She sounds extremley bitter and you can tell she hates us with a passion. It's both amusing and very sad.

I like to see them lose but the hatred dose'nt really go any further than that.

[russon]

Give him a chance! He's barely had chance to take his first dump at Bodymoor Heath. 10 games in then we can measure his progress.

Well Alex, that last dump was a bit loose, and has left skid marks on the side of the pan.  It's also going to need breaking up with the toilet brush before it flushes.  Must do better.

a couple of home wins and a cheeky result at Everton and he'll be curling down top quality Boxing Day morning two flushers

[Holtenderinthesky]

I wish some of you would live in the real Villa world, nice to be positive and all that but if we go down to Blackburn at home the knives will be showing in his back before he reaches the tunnel.

The opening few fixtures have been incredibly kind to McLeish.  If he doesn't come out of them with a decent haul of points, he only has himself to blame, and will deserve the stick.

If we get beat at home to Blackburn then he thoroughly deserves any stick he gets.

I was not happy with the appointment of McLeish, partly owing to his poor record in the English top flight, and yes partly down to where he came from and the manner in which he was recruited (lets face it we tapped him up).

Most of that unhappiness is with the board, not McLeish himself. More to the point I am nonplussed with the retrenchment in ambition that this appointment signified, and also the dishonesty about that change in ambition (imagine how well he would do with a chairman that backed him and all that guff).

As a man I have to admit I like like him, he is honest, straightforwards, and is getting on with the job at hand as best as he can. As a manager I still do not rate his ability as good enough to be manager of Aston Villa. Obviously I hope he does well, but I don't think he will.

I agree with this.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Some of our supporters hate Small Heath more than they support the Villa.

I don't know why anyone would begrudge us that afternoon of pleasure.

it was the last day of a truly wretched season, the sun was out, we'd just beaten Liverpool (which is almost up there with breaking the Deloitte Top 20 in terms of achievements) and our hated local rivals had got relegated.

I don't hate Blues more than I support Villa, but I do hate them, and consider it my duty as a football supporter to revel in their misfortune.

I hope there's much more of it to come.

You said it perfectly for me paulie. I had quite a few bluenose mates, but it was the Tait t-shirt that did it for me. We hadn't long won the League and European Cup and the wanker wears this insult to us in public after they had won whatever the name of that trophy was when they did their open top bus tour of Brum that no fucker turned up for. To make any reference to AV at that time was so inappropriate but the twat did it and it summed the scum up for me for ever. They are a shitty, small minded bunch of twats, from top to bottom.
Except for one ex-centre forward and an ex-manager or two!
back to the thread:  I think AM will get a good welcome on Sat. How we say bye bye to him will depend on the result!

[Legion]

Some of our supporters hate Small Heath more than they support the Villa.

I don't know why anyone would begrudge us that afternoon of pleasure.

it was the last day of a truly wretched season, the sun was out, we'd just beaten Liverpool (which is almost up there with breaking the Deloitte Top 20 in terms of achievements) and our hated local rivals had got relegated.

I don't hate Blues more than I support Villa, but I do hate them, and consider it my duty as a football supporter to revel in their misfortune.

I hope there's much more of it to come.

I thought it was bloody brilliant!

[Toronto Villa]

Winning me over is a longer term thing that will be dictated ultimately by results. He has my complete support though as Villa manager as he strives to achieve that. I hope that come Saturday every person in the ground wearing our colours is fully behind him and more importantly the 11 lads on the pitch.

[JJ-AV]

I'll be giving him a good reception. I don't rate him as a manager but he's here now and he seems a nice enough bloke so I'll get behind him.

I'm really astounded anyone would give a shit about where he came from tbh. It's just about his ability and reputation.

[JJ-AV]

I wish some of you would live in the real Villa world, nice to be positive and all that but if we go down to Blackburn at home the knives will be showing in his back before he reaches the tunnel.

The opening few fixtures have been incredibly kind to McLeish.  If he doesn't come out of them with a decent haul of points, he only has himself to blame, and will deserve the stick.

If we're really struggligng after the opening 12 games or so he'll be gone, IMO. They really are kind.

[JJ-AV]

Some of our supporters hate Small Heath more than they support the Villa.

Pathetic isn't it. I couldn't give a shit about them apart from when we play them.

West Ham away a few years back, Milner forcing an OG winner game - around 20 blokes were signing 'Blues are shit m'lord' over and over. That has to be the worst song I've ever heard.

[Villanation]

At this point each game is a milestone, each milestone is a further rung up the ladder if we get the result or 2 rungs down if we don't.

McLiesh will stand or fall by the results he gets regardless of what fans think of him, the problem McLiesh has, in the case of most managers who have to string together a succession of poor results and even poorer decisions before they even get onto the starting grid of the slippery slope and then the boot, McLiesh is already on the top of that slippery slope waiting to slip, hence many many Villa fans already commenting that if we lose to Blackburn at the weekend, already his tenure his bought into question, IMO that's why the board won't fully back him now, they are patently aware of the mountain he as to climb each week.

[Deano's Mullet]

Only one game in, its a bit too early to be either putting the boot in or singing his praises so i went for undecided.

[woody4866]

Undecided

He`s got 6 games IMO, after that we`ll know whats what

As a Villa fan I want him to do well for obvious reasons, no point wishing the phucker ill and taking AV down the sh!tter

[Toronto Villa]

I wish some of you would live in the real Villa world, nice to be positive and all that but if we go down to Blackburn at home the knives will be showing in his back before he reaches the tunnel.

The opening few fixtures have been incredibly kind to McLeish.  If he doesn't come out of them with a decent haul of points, he only has himself to blame, and will deserve the stick.

If we're really struggligng after the opening 12 games or so he'll be gone, IMO. They really are kind.

see I don't think he will be at all. I think the board have a far longer term outlook and will give him plenty of time to sort this out. When you consider that Everton for the past few years have been in or around the bottom 3 after the first 10-12 games, Moyes would have been sacked on numerous occasions if their board did something so rash. Yet, they game him time, and he still worked out a way to get things going finishing strongly each season. McLeish will be given time to do his job irrespective of how things go. I don't think for a second we'll be bottom or even close to it after 12 games anyway.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

At this point each game is a milestone, each milestone is a further rung up the ladder if we get the result or 2 rungs down if we don't.

McLiesh will stand or fall by the results he gets regardless of what fans think of him, the problem McLiesh has, in the case of most managers who have to string together a succession of poor results and even poorer decisions before they even get onto the starting grid of the slippery slope and then the boot, McLiesh is already on the top of that slippery slope waiting to slip, hence many many Villa fans already commenting that if we lose to Blackburn at the weekend, already his tenure his bought into question, IMO that's why the board won't fully back him now, they are patently aware of the mountain he as to climb each week.

RL and co have made it clear they are absolutely right in their choice of Villa manager. They clearly went after him and in doing so rejected all others and paid a considerable financial cost. I hope some on here are totally wrong in thinking that AM is being set up to fail. I just don't see the point in that.
I think most of us will start forming a view of AM after 8/9/10 games, and more patient fans will give him a lot longer. I'd like to think I'm patient and reasonable but I hate it when my team loses and I was quite prepared to criticise Houllier when I couldn't see sense in what he was doing and the results weren't what I wanted. AM will be judged no differently by me. If we win every game I'll fuckin love him! And so will the rest of us!