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Offline WALTERS WARRIORS

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #90 on: July 16, 2011, 12:53:15 AM »
He is a top notch keeper. But would of preferred Foster. Givens shouder injury worries me .......

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #91 on: July 16, 2011, 12:57:08 AM »
I mentioned this earlier, but if his shoulder is still a problem why hasn't he injured it again in training? He must be diving around. It's a concern, but maybe not as big as we are making it out to be.

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #92 on: July 16, 2011, 01:06:06 AM »
But with that type of injury surely no one can foresee the long term severity of the problem ? i would expect some clause in his contract regarding any future "setbacks" ....

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #93 on: July 16, 2011, 01:06:26 AM »
I mentioned this earlier, but if his shoulder is still a problem why hasn't he injured it again in training? He must be diving around. It's a concern, but maybe not as big as we are making it out to be.

I know what you mean, but, in the same breath, why not give Hargreaves a go?  He looks good in the video doesn't he? 

Given may be fine, but there is a cloud over him, in the same way as there always was with Laursen.

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #94 on: July 16, 2011, 01:13:16 AM »
There is a whole rain storm over Hargreaves. Would be a massive gamble. Given has only had this injury once. Hargreaves has had multiple "set backs" .....

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #95 on: July 16, 2011, 02:01:53 AM »
Hargreaves career as a footballer is pretty much over due to persistant and recurring injury...he only needs to stand up, jog on the spot and his leg practically falls off. Completely different kettle of fish to Given.

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #96 on: July 16, 2011, 03:19:37 AM »
And midfielders generally need to exert themselves more than keepers, so one as knackered as Hargreaves isn't going to be in huge demand.

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #97 on: July 16, 2011, 09:32:14 AM »
If we are to sign Given and keep the same centre backs, I just cant see us improving the defending of set pieces which we really need to do.

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #98 on: July 16, 2011, 09:33:54 AM »
Cuellar going may mean Dann coming in.

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #99 on: July 16, 2011, 09:39:58 AM »
Cuellar going may mean Dann coming in.
Hasn't Eck already said we can't afford him?

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #100 on: July 16, 2011, 09:41:52 AM »
If we are to sign Given and keep the same centre backs, I just cant see us improving the defending of set pieces which we really need to do.

I wouldnt worry, the Clown Houllier is gone. We weren't bad at defending them under MON and I would trust that Big Eck will be able to set us up well defensively having been a defender and also his rep for being a defensive manager.

Also, the myth about Given being useless on set pieces is.......a myth.

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #101 on: July 16, 2011, 09:42:56 AM »
Maybe, but he also said Downing isn't for sale. I'm not criticising him for this, just what football managers say, and what the truth actually is are often different things.

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #102 on: July 16, 2011, 09:43:07 AM »
Cuellar going may mean Dann coming in.
Hasn't Eck already said we can't afford him?

He also said Downing wasn't for sale. You have to take much of what is said with a pinch of salt.

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #103 on: July 16, 2011, 09:45:24 AM »
Chris, it's either great minds think alike or fools seldom differ.

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Re: Shay Given
« Reply #104 on: July 16, 2011, 09:45:47 AM »
Cuellar going may mean Dann coming in.
Hasn't Eck already said we can't afford him?

He also said Downing wasn't for sale. You have to take much of what is said with a pinch of salt.

The possibility also exists that Dann was too expensive for our budget, but now that Downing has gone for £20m we could afford him?

 


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