Downing Completes Liverpool Transfer

[glasses]

It isn't an awful team, but it s an awful squad. That's the killer.

Actually, it is an awful team too. Guzan? Relying on lazarus style events from Warnock and Ireland?

I did say on paper, and I did say with some sound management. It isnt beyond the realms of possibility that Warnock will come to his senses, and Ireland becomes that 10-15m player that he is capable of being.

Guzan doesnt fill me with any confidence at all, and it is very cler where the holes are.

[Stu]

The next few weeks are now (as if they weren't before this) absolutely massive for villa. Get the fucking finger out and start sorting some transfers.

True. This summer has started badly: Houllier replaced by McLeish; Friedel and NRC leaves; Young sold and now Downing. The club have to work hard to get the good feeling back.

I don't think they really give a shit.

[glasses]

I admit, it isnt the strongest, but with some sound management, and hopefully some signings, it isnt an awful team on paper.

Not a lot to show for five years and £100M+ is it?

Not after the board have sold our best three players, no.

[glasses]

That wasn't the point Greg, the squad isnt 'two thirds full of MONs mistakes is it?
Currently, we could line up with

Guzan
L Young
Cuellar
Dunne
Warnock

Albrighton
Makoun
Petrov
Ireland
Bannan

Bent

Gabby
Delph
Delfonueso
Heskey
Beye
Collins
Marshall

I admit, it isnt the strongest, but with some sound management, and hopefully some signings, it isnt an awful team on paper.

I'd say 11 of them are either not good enough or coming to the end of their careers so my apologies. not quite 2 thirds

Its a shame that isnt it, players getting older! If only they could stay 26 forever. Not being good enough is opinion, not fact.

[Dave]

From that list, I can work out two that would definitely be counted as mistakes with one other possibilty (Heskey and Beye in the first column, Warnock in the second).

I'll put this down to standard Nash-style idiocy.

[Greg N'Ash]

3? They've sold 2 players and we're probably looking at a 17m profit vs all the million pissed up the wall on players who walked away on frees or on knock-down prices.

[Greg N'Ash]

That wasn't the point Greg, the squad isnt 'two thirds full of MONs mistakes is it?
Currently, we could line up with

Guzan
L Young
Cuellar
Dunne
Warnock

Albrighton
Makoun
Petrov
Ireland
Bannan

Bent

Gabby
Delph
Delfonueso
Heskey
Beye
Collins
Marshall

I admit, it isnt the strongest, but with some sound management, and hopefully some signings, it isnt an awful team on paper.

I'd say 11 of them are either not good enough or coming to the end of their careers so my apologies. not quite 2 thirds

Its a shame that isnt it, players getting older! If only they could stay 26 forever. Not being good enough is opinion, not fact.

erm....why spends millions on players who will only last 2 or years if you ain't got the money to buy replacements? Exactly the mistake Gregory made.

[tarzansbrother]

I see Modric has handed in a transfer request tonight aswell. If Mcleish is allowed to spend and spends well I believe selling Downing is a great deal.

[glasses]

3? They've sold 2 players and we're probably looking at a 17m profit vs all the million pissed up the wall on players who walked away on frees or on knock-down prices.

James Milner, Ashley Young, and the chap who will be imminently leaving, makes three. Not very good at maths Greg?

[Greg N'Ash]

3? They've sold 2 players and we're probably looking at a 17m profit vs all the million pissed up the wall on players who walked away on frees or on knock-down prices.

James Milner, Ashley Young, and the chap who will be imminently leaving, makes three. Not very good at maths Greg?

Mon sold Milner. He even let the cat out the bag at the time and he left with his full agreement, and bought the duffer Ireland as his replacement. Nowt to do with the board.

[glasses]

That wasn't the point Greg, the squad isnt 'two thirds full of MONs mistakes is it?
Currently, we could line up with

Guzan
L Young
Cuellar
Dunne
Warnock

Albrighton
Makoun
Petrov
Ireland
Bannan

Bent

Gabby
Delph
Delfonueso
Heskey
Beye
Collins
Marshall

I admit, it isnt the strongest, but with some sound management, and hopefully some signings, it isnt an awful team on paper.

I'd say 11 of them are either not good enough or coming to the end of their careers so my apologies. not quite 2 thirds

Its a shame that isnt it, players getting older! If only they could stay 26 forever. Not being good enough is opinion, not fact.

erm....why spends millions on players who will only last 2 or years if you ain't got the money to buy replacements? Exactly the mistake Gregory made.

Why are you creating another tangeant? Why cant you stick to the point you were arguing?

[Greg N'Ash]

That wasn't the point Greg, the squad isnt 'two thirds full of MONs mistakes is it?
Currently, we could line up with

Guzan
L Young
Cuellar
Dunne
Warnock

Albrighton
Makoun
Petrov
Ireland
Bannan

Bent

Gabby
Delph
Delfonueso
Heskey
Beye
Collins
Marshall

I admit, it isnt the strongest, but with some sound management, and hopefully some signings, it isnt an awful team on paper.

I'd say 11 of them are either not good enough or coming to the end of their careers so my apologies. not quite 2 thirds

Its a shame that isnt it, players getting older! If only they could stay 26 forever. Not being good enough is opinion, not fact.

erm....why spends millions on players who will only last 2 or years if you ain't got the money to buy replacements? Exactly the mistake Gregory made.

Why are you creating another tangeant? Why cant you stick to the point you were arguing?

doesn't spending millions on the likes of petrov and heskey when you haven't got the funds to replace them in 3 years time, class as a mistake then?

[ozzjim]

What is our net spend now?


Also be interesting to claculate our wage bill as it stands too. Surely it must be looking a lot healthier, and will even more so next summer, when Beye and Heskey are out of contract.

Guzan 15k
L Young 40k
Cuellar 35k
Dunne 55k
Warnock 45k

Albrighton 15k
Makoun 40k
Petrov 50k
Ireland 50k
Bannan 10k

Bent 60k

Gabby 50k
Delph 20k
Delfonueso 10k
Heskey 50k
Beye 50k
Collins 40k
Marshall 10k

Roughly 650k a week I reckon?? So 34 million ish a year. I reckon 5 players on around 50k would swell it to 45-50 million. A long way off the 80 million and surely much healthier. I still reckon off loading Beye for free and Heskey for bugger all and replacing them with the likes of Clyne and AN other wardrobe youngster from the Championship would be worthwhile and cut another couple of million off the pie.

[glasses]

Well, Petrov has played consistently for us for 5 years. pretty good service that. he is still under contract, so if he leaves will comand a transfer fee, granted less than what was paid for him, but its not like we paid 8 million for him, and used him as a steward. He is the captain, and he is going to age, thus depreciate in value, but we have had some worth from him. Heskey is shit, I classed him as a mistake, remember?

[tarzansbrother]

What is our net spend now?


Also be interesting to claculate our wage bill as it stands too. Surely it must be looking a lot healthier, and will even more so next summer, when Beye and Heskey are out of contract.

Guzan 15k
L Young 40k
Cuellar 35k
Dunne 55k
Warnock 45k

Albrighton 15k
Makoun 40k
Petrov 50k
Ireland 50k
Bannan 10k

Bent 60k

Gabby 50k
Delph 20k
Delfonueso 10k
Heskey 50k
Beye 50k
Collins 40k
Marshall 10k

Roughly 650k a week I reckon?? So 34 million ish a year. I reckon 5 players on around 50k would swell it to 45-50 million. A long way off the 80 million and surely much healthier. I still reckon off loading Beye for free and Heskey for bugger all and replacing them with the likes of Clyne and AN other wardrobe youngster from the Championship would be worthwhile and cut another couple of million off the pie.

Great post and would sum up the clubs strategy. Let's hope the 5 players are up to scratch.