Downing Completes Liverpool Transfer

[Clampy]

Disappointed. I'm glad it's being settled quickly rather than dragging out, but from being Player of the Year to all of a sudden wanting out. It's quite shit really.

It's over to you Alex to get the players with the coin hopefully burning a hole in your pocket.

Break a leg Stew. I mean that sincerely.

You're probably right with the ''coin'' quote - Lerner will scrape around the back of the sofa to give AM a pittance to re-invest if we're lucky. After all, AM did say there is ''no pot of gold'' to spend - so don't think by selling Downing there will be money to spend. Billionaire owner? A complete joke!

Let's have a bit of perspective here for a second. The three players that have left over the past two season's (Milner, Young and Barry) cost just under £35m to bring in. Throw in all the other money he has spent and the £24m he spent in January, then i think 'a complete joke' is harsh.

Let's just see what happens between now and the end of August. If the money has'nt been re-invested, then he'll know about it i'm sure.

I can't believe you're still making excuses for this board! Have a good think about what's been going on since MON left. I'm beginning to see why he quit now.

All i'm saying is, let's just see if the money that's come in is re-invested. If it's not, then i'll be joining you in wanting to know what's going on.

At the end of the day, Randy did'nt deny MON or Houiller money to spend, so let's see if it's going to be any different this time. 

[pauliewalnuts]

Dispiriting that Milner, Young and Downing have gone and yet Beye, Heskey, Warnock and Ireland are all still here.

Heskey is going to sit on his useless arse for another year and a bit or whatever it is, picking up his 65k a week until he's 35, as will Beye with his 40k.

Depressing as fuck.

[Toronto Villa]

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2392227,00.html

So we don't gave replacements lined up, but believe there are targets available? Top drawer management.

That statement says it all.The club are a joke at the moment.PF really should not be allowed to make any statement, he sounds like a prick.

I don't read much into press releases. The proof will be in what happens between now and August 31st. It could be a PR error in the wording, or it could be the club being coy. I have no idea. Sign Given and N'Zogbia and it starts to chip away at the deficit of faith.

[Greg N'Ash]

Dispiriting that Milner, Young and Downing have gone and yet Beye, Heskey, Warnock and Ireland are all still here.

yep. we're basically left with a squad two thirds full of MON's mistakes

[hilts_coolerking]

All i'm saying is, let's just see if the money that's come in is re-invested. If it's not, then i'll be joining you in wanting to know what's going on.

Four top players sold in three seasons, O'Neill replaced by Houllier and then by McLeish, squad at the right end of the table turned into squad fighting relegation and you're still not yet at the point where you want to know what's going on?

[avfcpg]

One thing I will say is, does it take a circa £80 million spend to even just ensure the heady heights of 5th-7th now?  Top flight football in this country really is in La La Land.

Needless to say, Liverpool intend to finish higher than 5th-7th.

Oh I'm sure you do.

But do you really think Man U, Chelsea, Citeh or Arsenal are worried/ envious vis a vis most of your business to date?

I don't think Tottingham will be particularly miffed either. That's five for the kick off.

It depends whether they understand the policy or not and whether they think it'll be effective.

To stress the point further:

OptaJoe Opta Sports
56% - Downing, Adam & Henderson created 239 chances in the PL last season, equivalent to 56% of Liverpool's 2010-11 total (429). Blueprint.

and

If that was the case then wouldn't you be better off spending on Barton, Etherington and Chris Brunt? All right up there on the OPTA stats. No offence but I think you might interpret creating a chance as sticking a pinpoint cross on the bonce of the centre forward six yards out right in front of goal. OPTA probably view creating a chance a little different.

Envious of Liverpools spending right now, but would be dissapointed if we spent £40 million on the likes of Downing and Henderson..assists or not.

[Villafirst]

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2392227,00.html

So we don't gave replacements lined up, but believe there are targets available? Top drawer management.

That statement says it all.The club are a joke at the moment.PF really should not be allowed to make any statement, he sounds like a prick.

I don't read much into press releases. The proof will be in what happens between now and August 31st. It could be a PR error in the wording, or it could be the club being coy. I have no idea. Sign Given and N'Zogbia and it starts to chip away at the deficit of faith.

The club haven't got the first clue about PR - that's been evident for the last 12 months and particularly over the summer. How are we going to replace influential players like Young, Downing, Walker and NRC??

[KevinGage]

Aye. Brunt was only one chance behind, and probably seen less of the ball in a team like the Olbiyun. 

Brunt, Barton and Davies up front. Maybe bust the bank for Malouda and the world is your lobster. Or something.

The system is foolproof.

[Redman]

You've obviously missed a trick there then.

If we're taking a Villdawg painting by statistics approach to football, you could have got Kevin Davies for a fraction of the cost.

Because it's obviously as easy as looking at the ratios from the season previous and assuming the exact same conditions, formation and opposition strengths/ weaknesses will be in play again.

Which is probably why Man Citeh thought they were getting a goalscoring midfielder last year. Milner was our nominated penalty taker, but I won't tell them if you don't.

Of course it's not easy. All I've done is give you an oversimplified example based on a single variable - chances created.

That's me done for a while. Ta-ra.

[Villafirst]

All i'm saying is, let's just see if the money that's come in is re-invested. If it's not, then i'll be joining you in wanting to know what's going on.

Four top players sold in three seasons, O'Neill replaced by Houllier and then by McLeish, squad at the right end of the table turned into squad fighting relegation and you're still not yet at the point where you want to know what's going on?

Well said Hilts! Exactly my thoughts.

[bertlambshank]

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2392227,00.html

So we don't gave replacements lined up, but believe there are targets available? Top drawer management.

That statement says it all.The club are a joke at the moment.PF really should not be allowed to make any statement, he sounds like a prick.

I don't read much into press releases. The proof will be in what happens between now and August 31st. It could be a PR error in the wording, or it could be the club being coy. I have no idea. Sign Given and N'Zogbia and it starts to chip away at the deficit of faith.

TV this has '87 written all over it.Time for Randy to step up.

[Greg N'Ash]

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2392227,00.html

So we don't gave replacements lined up, but believe there are targets available? Top drawer management.

That statement says it all.The club are a joke at the moment.PF really should not be allowed to make any statement, he sounds like a prick.

I don't read much into press releases. The proof will be in what happens between now and August 31st. It could be a PR error in the wording, or it could be the club being coy. I have no idea. Sign Given and N'Zogbia and it starts to chip away at the deficit of faith.

The club haven't got the first clue about PR - that's been evident for the last 12 months and particularly over the summer. How are we going to replace influential players like Young, Downing, Walker and NRC??

Apparently from raiding the likes of Wigan and Blose. *FACEPALM*

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Redman, please take the night off. I don't think anyone on here gives a flying fuck about Liverpool's so-called scientific transfer approach right now.

Perhaps another time.

Fair enough.

Sorry folks.

I'll lie low for a bit.

Redman. Think you have every right to have your opinion on this forum. The majority of the people on here wanted Downing to leave anyway. Myself included. Now we have got our asking price i cannot see the problem .... Statistically your analysis looks good, but we all know football sometimes is not that simple ........ 

[glasses]

Dispiriting that Milner, Young and Downing have gone and yet Beye, Heskey, Warnock and Ireland are all still here.

That will be after the board selling three of the best players to play at Villa Park in a long time


yep. we're basically left with a squad two thirds full of MON's mistakes

Dispiriting that Milner, Young and Downing have gone and yet Beye, Heskey, Warnock and Ireland are all still here.

yep. we're basically left with a squad two thirds full of MON's mistakes

I think thats very harsh. Name this two thirds of mistakes. Of what is left, I would only say that Beye and Heskey are mistakes. One day, you are going to have to stop blaming him for everything Greg

[Toronto Villa]

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2392227,00.html

So we don't gave replacements lined up, but believe there are targets available? Top drawer management.

That statement says it all.The club are a joke at the moment.PF really should not be allowed to make any statement, he sounds like a prick.

I don't read much into press releases. The proof will be in what happens between now and August 31st. It could be a PR error in the wording, or it could be the club being coy. I have no idea. Sign Given and N'Zogbia and it starts to chip away at the deficit of faith.

TV this has '87 written all over it.Time for Randy to step up.

I agree, it's time for the club to restore the faith, but come on, this isn't close to 87. 87 was as bleak as it gets. The players in that squad were fucking mince. I know we've lost some quality, but this squad is way better than that lot.