Club Statement

[Rip Van We Go Again]

The question is

Are McLeish and his backroom staff worth £2m-£3m?

In my opinion, no.

The most i'd have coughed up is a hamper of training gear.
Or a lawnmower.

[Lee]

It would've all ended in tears, IMO.

As opposed to appointing McLeish, which has all started in tears.

It's this sort of 'out of the box' thinking that will bring us the success we crave.

We always start off liking our managers and end up hating them.  Wouldn't it be refresshing to see Fletch and Risso being roggered by AM for all their worth 3 years down the line?

I've a feeling that Risso and I will have egg free faces in 3 years time.
I'd be mightily surprised if McLeish is still here and the current owners too.

I have a firm belief that he will be gone by Xmas. In fact, I'm gonna chuck some money on it

[hilts_coolerking]

I have a firm belief that he will be gone by Xmas.

That wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Villanation]

The big question must be, who decided to go down the road of sourcing a manager with a very suspect record where the premiership is concerned, a manager that would evoke all kinds of emotions form the fans a manager that has a mountain to climb even before kick of, a manager that will be judged and scrutinized every step of the way, a manager that we have actually paid for.

Who came up with this, because as far as I'm concerned they are clearly in the wrong job, that's nothing against McLiesh per say , its just raising the point as to why???and such a contentious appointment and one that could see Villa's season spiral into chaos within 90mins of the season starting and its cost us money, nobody with a sane sensible mind can say on one hand we need to cut our wage bill, or we shouldn't go after players with high wage demands when we have just performed 2 acts of madness in paying of 1 manager in MON and then tapping up another and getting smacked for that.

[Lee]

The big question must be, who decided to go down the road of sourcing a manager with a very suspect record where the premiership is concerned, a manager that would evoke all kinds of emotions form the fans a manager that has a mountain to climb even before kick of, a manager that will be judged and scrutinized every step of the way, a manager that we have actually paid for.

Who came up with this, because as far as I'm concerned they are clearly in the wrong job, that's nothing against McLiesh per say , its just raising the point as to why???and such a contentious appointment and one that could see Villa's season spiral into chaos within 90mins of the season starting and its cost us money, nobody with a sane sensible mind can say on one hand we need to cut our wage bill, or we shouldn't go after players with high wage demands when we have just performed 2 acts of madness in paying of 1 manager in MON and then tapping up another and getting smacked for that.

As said above , who would have thought this just a few months ago

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Who came up with this, because as far as I'm concerned they are clearly in the wrong job, that's nothing against McLiesh per say

I think it's fair to say that the board got all breathless and giggly when Ferguson gave him a reference.
Ludicrous really as he's a friend of SirAlex and he's not exactly going to say
'Ohh no, he wouldn't be right for Villa.'

Whoever came up with his name, clearly came up with the name of serial crapster Martinez as well.
I dread to think what other names were considered that we don't know about.

[Merv]

A lot of questions in there that I'd love to hear answered by those who made the appointment. Somehow, I think they'll go unanswered.

The appointment didn't make a lot of sense at the time. The best way I've come up with understanding why we've done what we've done is that we wanted a manager happy to work with a very modest transfer budget, happy to accept losing players and cutting costs. McLeish accepted the conditions which came with the job. Okay, so huge speculation and conjecture on my part there, but it's my own (not exclusively my own) theory, and it's all I have to go on, as nothing has really been explained so far. At least not officially.

[Lee]

Nothing will be explained either.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

The appointment didn't make a lot of sense at the time. The best way I've come up with understanding why we've done what we've done is that we wanted a manager happy to work with a very modest transfer budget, happy to accept losing players and cutting costs. McLeish accepted the conditions which came with the job. Okay, so huge speculation and conjecture on my part there, but it's my own (not exclusively my own) theory, and it's all I have to go on, as nothing has really been explained so far. At least not officially.

Seems a believable enough theory.
Even working to a tight budget, it won't be as bad as the finances at the Dog Shit.
And he's doubled his wages to boot.

[Villanation]

Who came up with this, because as far as I'm concerned they are clearly in the wrong job, that's nothing against McLiesh per say

I think it's fair to say that the board got all breathless and giggly when Ferguson gave him a reference.
Ludicrous really as he's a friend of SirAlex and he's not exactly going to say
'Ohh no, he wouldn't be right for Villa.'

Whoever came up with his name, clearly came up with the name of serial crapster Martinez as well.
I dread to think what other names were considered that we don't know about.

Fergie is one wily fox, anything that will give Man U breathing space and one less fixture problem i reckon would suit Fergie down to the ground, its all brownie points for him, and IMO Villa are 1 less threat, i'd do precisely the same.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Nothing will be explained either.

Lee - Sometimes in football, as in life, TOUGH decisions have to made.
We KNOW that the fans will not always agree with the decisions that are made, but Randy makes them with the BEST INTERESTS of the club at heart. Randy is as commited today as the day he took over the club, he still has the Villa tattoo on his ankle and it upsets me when his commitment is questioned.
Let's rally round the club, YOUR CLUB and with the help of our footballing network and Southampton Council style cutbacks WE WILL come through the other side in a better shape than before.
I would urge our supporters to not give up at this crucial time, I would also urge them to use the Holte Pub...Please...The bar staff are bored rigid every day and they need something to do.
Now then, who wants a free scarf?

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Who came up with this, because as far as I'm concerned they are clearly in the wrong job, that's nothing against McLiesh per say

I think it's fair to say that the board got all breathless and giggly when Ferguson gave him a reference.
Ludicrous really as he's a friend of SirAlex and he's not exactly going to say
'Ohh no, he wouldn't be right for Villa.'

Whoever came up with his name, clearly came up with the name of serial crapster Martinez as well.
I dread to think what other names were considered that we don't know about.

Fergie is one wily fox, anything that will give Man U breathing space and one less fixture problem i reckon would suit Fergie down to the ground, its all brownie points for him, and IMO Villa are 1 less threat, i'd do precisely the same.

His method is understandable, I don't blame him.
But why do we have to get suckered in by it?

[London Villan]

Sadly I don't think we are even on Fergie's radar as a threat.

[kippaxvilla2]

£3m to them, Jesus.  We take a manager who got them relegated twice and finished 3rd in the Scottish League with Rangers and got Hibs relegated and keep Blues financially afloat in the meantime.  Like Mr F said, two months ago, you would have been taken to a sanitorium.  But then again, if you had said the Murdoch empire was going to collapse in the same timeframe, the same treatment would have been meted out.

[Merv]

Not now, no. Two seasons ago they edged us in the League Cup Final and at one stage we were pushing them close in the league - talk of being outside title contenders. But that was then.

I actually found it staggering we consulted/were influenced by the opinions of a current, active, Premier League manager.