Manc Slag Scoles-eh puts the boot in

[Brend'Watkins]

I like Scholes, always have.  He's about as honest a footballer as you will get in the last 10 or more years.  No agent for him squeezing the last drop out of his employer, no stories of him in the tabloids for the wrong reasons, no pictures of tacky barn conversions, no pictures of tacky top of the range car conversions, no stupid oversized head phones hanging from his neck, nothing about his WAG. 

He played football and was very good at it (the tackling apart) for a long time.  If we had a few more or they were all like him at the top level the game would be in a much better state.

[PaulTheVillan]

Clappy thing for Scholes.
I wonder which player he had in mind when he specifically named us?
Barry? Vassell? Southgate?

More like Barry, Milner, Young and Downing...

None of whom will have ever been in an England squad with Paul Scholes. So they're obviously not the players that he's talking about.

Southgate & Ehiogu.

[pedro25]

Hendrie, Collymore, Merson, Dublin?

[Somniloquism]

it's funny because neither barry or southgate ended up at the 'top' clubs they were attempting to engineer a move to.

Probably because Southgate (just like Downing), wasn't good enough. He thought he was, but everyone else knew otherwise.

Didn't Southgate miss out on a move to Chelsea due to him playing for us in the Intertoto and thus becoming cup-tied in Europe?

That might have been. Of course it was pre Abramovich when Chelsea were not much bigger then us. Cuddly Ken was in charge who was one of the few chairman that made Doug look decent but they had the plus point of London and some aging Europeans who helped sell the club in the media slightly better.

I think Southgate believed Arse were going to need him to replace Adams or Manure to replace Bruce. Instead he went to Middlesvilla to replace Pallister. The trouble was he was good in a 3 CH back line but average when playing with two central defenders and then top clubs were going that way.

[PaulTheVillan]

Hendrie, Collymore, Merson, Dublin?

All of which didn't get anything better after us.

[Billy Walker]

it's funny because neither barry or southgate ended up at the 'top' clubs they were attempting to engineer a move to.

Probably because Southgate (just like Downing), wasn't good enough. He thought he was, but everyone else knew otherwise.

Didn't Southgate miss out on a move to Chelsea due to him playing for us in the Intertoto and thus becoming cup-tied in Europe?

That might have been. Of course it was pre Abramovich when Chelsea were not much bigger then us. Cuddly Ken was in charge who was one of the few chairman that made Doug look decent but they had the plus point of London and some aging Europeans who helped sell the club in the media slightly better.

I think Southgate believed Arse were going to need him to replace Adams or Manure to replace Bruce. Instead he went to Middlesvilla to replace Pallister. The trouble was he was good in a 3 CH back line but average when playing with two central defenders and then top clubs were going that way.

I think it was the Matthew Harding era of Chelsea when they were getting access to significant funds for the first time.


When it was just Ken Bates pulling the strings we were signing their captain off them (Andy Townsend).

[Diablo]

&:

[martin]

Inadvertantly he's distilled everything that the modern footballer feels about playing for his country. If you play for a top club it's a chore and you'll use any excuse to get out of it; if you come from any other club, it's a chance to put yourself in the shop window for a move.

Struggling to buy into the salt-of-the-earth Scholsey line. He essentially gave up on the ultimate challenge of every footballer with aspirations to greatness (winning the World Cup) at 29 because he felt that those around him were not worthy of himself and his ManU mates. Anyone with issues about the conduct of former Villa players can put whatever spin on it they like to find agreement with him but what he's essentially doing is showing disdain for our club.

Still, he likes a pint with his mates and doesn't have a Ferrari, so that's all right then.

Interestingly, playing with Cristiano Ronaldo - someone else more intent on making an impression to catch the eye of a "bigger" club than playing the simple ball - never seemed to trouble him to the point of walking away from the game.   

[adrenachrome]

Inadvertantly he's distilled everything that the modern footballer feels about playing for his country. If you play for a top club it's a chore and you'll use any excuse to get out of it; if you come from any other club, it's a chance to put yourself in the shop window for a move.

Struggling to buy into the salt-of-the-earth Scholsey line. He essentially gave up on the ultimate challenge of every footballer with aspirations to greatness (winning the World Cup) at 29 because he felt that those around him were not worthy of himself and his ManU mates. Anyone with issues about the conduct of former Villa players can put whatever spin on it they like to find agreement with him but what he's essentially doing is showing disdain for our club.

Still, he likes a pint with his mates and doesn't have a Ferrari, so that's all right then.

Interestingly, playing with Cristiano Ronaldo - someone else more intent on making an impression to catch the eye of a "bigger" club rather than playing the simple ball - never seemed to trouble him to the point of walking away from the game.   

Exactly. The squeaking Manc slag can go and fuck himself with a rusty dildo.

[Somniloquism]

it's funny because neither barry or southgate ended up at the 'top' clubs they were attempting to engineer a move to.

Probably because Southgate (just like Downing), wasn't good enough. He thought he was, but everyone else knew otherwise.

Didn't Southgate miss out on a move to Chelsea due to him playing for us in the Intertoto and thus becoming cup-tied in Europe?

That might have been. Of course it was pre Abramovich when Chelsea were not much bigger then us. Cuddly Ken was in charge who was one of the few chairman that made Doug look decent but they had the plus point of London and some aging Europeans who helped sell the club in the media slightly better.

I think Southgate believed Arse were going to need him to replace Adams or Manure to replace Bruce. Instead he went to Middlesvilla to replace Pallister. The trouble was he was good in a 3 CH back line but average when playing with two central defenders and then top clubs were going that way.

I think it was the Matthew Harding era of Chelsea when they were getting access to significant funds for the first time.


When it was just Ken Bates pulling the strings we were signing their captain off them (Andy Townsend).

I doubt it as Harding was dead in 96 when we signed Southgate. Yes he left a legacy but Chelsea were in financial trouble as it ran out just before the Abramovich came through. As I originally said, the Chelsea move might have been on the cards, but apart from the media bias, they were not much diffeerent to us apart from wininng a cup or two. They were definitely not a Big 3 or 4 side at the time when it seemed Southgate was touting for a title challenging side.

As an aside, I remember when the helicopter crash was reported and on Beeb breakfast, they did not know who was on board. As the male presenter was covering in other news you could hear the woman co-presnter go "Oh No" and then they went back to the studio and she announced it was Harding. My first thought was she must be a Chelsea fan, my second was wondering how Ken had manage to pull that off.

[nick harper]

Inadvertantly he's distilled everything that the modern footballer feels about playing for his country. If you play for a top club it's a chore and you'll use any excuse to get out of it; if you come from any other club, it's a chance to put yourself in the shop window for a move.

Struggling to buy into the salt-of-the-earth Scholsey line. He essentially gave up on the ultimate challenge of every footballer with aspirations to greatness (winning the World Cup) at 29 because he felt that those around him were not worthy of himself and his ManU mates. Anyone with issues about the conduct of former Villa players can put whatever spin on it they like to find agreement with him but what he's essentially doing is showing disdain for our club.

Still, he likes a pint with his mates and doesn't have a Ferrari, so that's all right then.

Interestingly, playing with Cristiano Ronaldo - someone else more intent on making an impression to catch the eye of a "bigger" club than playing the simple ball - never seemed to trouble him to the point of walking away from the game.   

Whether he played for himself or the team, I don't think anyone can argue that Ronaldo did not deliver on the pitch for Utd.

[Mac]

Clappy thing for Scholes.
I wonder which player he had in mind when he specifically named us?
Barry? Vassell? Southgate?

More like Barry, Milner, Young and Downing...absolutely no coincidence that as soon as AY and SD start getting involved in the England squad that they start manufacturing a move to increase their wages. In all honesty, you cant really blame them either.

Platt came back from Italia 90 learning Italian

Steve Hodge?


Villa fans should hate our players playing for England, it always screws them up.

[Mac]

I like Scholes, always have.  He's about as honest a footballer as you will get in the last 10 or more years.  No agent for him squeezing the last drop out of his employer, no stories of him in the tabloids for the wrong reasons, no pictures of tacky barn conversions, no pictures of tacky top of the range car conversions, no stupid oversized head phones hanging from his neck, nothing about his WAG. 

Have you seen his missus?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

[martin]

An interview question from Mrs Merton to the lovely Debbie McGhee springs readily to mind