Quote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:02:25 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:00:12 AMHe didn't have to - we paid him straight off.oh so you're saying it was all about the money then? well at least we agree on something.No, I'm saying it looks like he thought he had a case for constructive dismissal. And it looks like the PL tribunal and the board of AVFC agreed with him.
Quote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:00:12 AMHe didn't have to - we paid him straight off.oh so you're saying it was all about the money then? well at least we agree on something.
He didn't have to - we paid him straight off.
Quote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:05:10 AMQuote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:02:25 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:00:12 AMHe didn't have to - we paid him straight off.oh so you're saying it was all about the money then? well at least we agree on something.No, I'm saying it looks like he thought he had a case for constructive dismissal. And it looks like the PL tribunal and the board of AVFC agreed with him.look, this is a guy who protects his reputation and has no qualms about taking people to court if they upset him and letting the public see what he's unhappy about. Now all of a sudden he goes all shy on us and instead of taking us to a proper employment tribunal he opts for the kangeroo court route. Odd that.Anyway i don't think he's ever denied walking out on us, just that he had his "reasons" that he refuses to expand on. Like some claiming diminished responsibility after they shoot someone.
Quote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:13:23 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:05:10 AMQuote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:02:25 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:00:12 AMHe didn't have to - we paid him straight off.oh so you're saying it was all about the money then? well at least we agree on something.No, I'm saying it looks like he thought he had a case for constructive dismissal. And it looks like the PL tribunal and the board of AVFC agreed with him.look, this is a guy who protects his reputation and has no qualms about taking people to court if they upset him and letting the public see what he's unhappy about. Now all of a sudden he goes all shy on us and instead of taking us to a proper employment tribunal he opts for the kangeroo court route. Odd that.Anyway i don't think he's ever denied walking out on us, just that he had his "reasons" that he refuses to expand on. Like some claiming diminished responsibility after they shoot someone.Ok, so why would Randy et al allow him to do that, given how wronged they were? Surely a day in court would work for everyone?
Quote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:15:17 AMQuote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:13:23 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:05:10 AMQuote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:02:25 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:00:12 AMHe didn't have to - we paid him straight off.oh so you're saying it was all about the money then? well at least we agree on something.No, I'm saying it looks like he thought he had a case for constructive dismissal. And it looks like the PL tribunal and the board of AVFC agreed with him.look, this is a guy who protects his reputation and has no qualms about taking people to court if they upset him and letting the public see what he's unhappy about. Now all of a sudden he goes all shy on us and instead of taking us to a proper employment tribunal he opts for the kangeroo court route. Odd that.Anyway i don't think he's ever denied walking out on us, just that he had his "reasons" that he refuses to expand on. Like some claiming diminished responsibility after they shoot someone.Ok, so why would Randy et al allow him to do that, given how wronged they were? Surely a day in court would work for everyone?the cost?
Isn't the tribunal something all clubs agree to go to rather than a proper court?
Quote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:18:52 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:15:17 AMQuote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:13:23 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:05:10 AMQuote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:02:25 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:00:12 AMHe didn't have to - we paid him straight off.oh so you're saying it was all about the money then? well at least we agree on something.No, I'm saying it looks like he thought he had a case for constructive dismissal. And it looks like the PL tribunal and the board of AVFC agreed with him.look, this is a guy who protects his reputation and has no qualms about taking people to court if they upset him and letting the public see what he's unhappy about. Now all of a sudden he goes all shy on us and instead of taking us to a proper employment tribunal he opts for the kangeroo court route. Odd that.Anyway i don't think he's ever denied walking out on us, just that he had his "reasons" that he refuses to expand on. Like some claiming diminished responsibility after they shoot someone.Ok, so why would Randy et al allow him to do that, given how wronged they were? Surely a day in court would work for everyone?the cost?The costs, added to the remainder of the contract if the court found in MON's favour? Yep, I take your point.
Quote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:21:29 AMQuote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:18:52 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:15:17 AMQuote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:13:23 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:05:10 AMQuote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:02:25 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:00:12 AMHe didn't have to - we paid him straight off.oh so you're saying it was all about the money then? well at least we agree on something.No, I'm saying it looks like he thought he had a case for constructive dismissal. And it looks like the PL tribunal and the board of AVFC agreed with him.look, this is a guy who protects his reputation and has no qualms about taking people to court if they upset him and letting the public see what he's unhappy about. Now all of a sudden he goes all shy on us and instead of taking us to a proper employment tribunal he opts for the kangeroo court route. Odd that.Anyway i don't think he's ever denied walking out on us, just that he had his "reasons" that he refuses to expand on. Like some claiming diminished responsibility after they shoot someone.Ok, so why would Randy et al allow him to do that, given how wronged they were? Surely a day in court would work for everyone?the cost?The costs, added to the remainder of the contract if the court found in MON's favour? Yep, I take your point.Sorry to piss on your bonfire but the PL rules insist that every PL manager has a clause in their contract that forces them to go through a process of LMA mediation followed by a tribunal. Neither he nor the club had any choice about it.
precisely. its just a way of stopping every sacked manager or those claiming constructive dismissal from taking it to a proper court, and lets face it 99% of managers could cobble together a case
Quote from: Villadawg on June 26, 2011, 01:29:45 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:21:29 AMQuote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:18:52 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:15:17 AMQuote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:13:23 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:05:10 AMQuote from: gregnash on June 26, 2011, 01:02:25 AMQuote from: VillainousVillan on June 26, 2011, 01:00:12 AMHe didn't have to - we paid him straight off.oh so you're saying it was all about the money then? well at least we agree on something.No, I'm saying it looks like he thought he had a case for constructive dismissal. And it looks like the PL tribunal and the board of AVFC agreed with him.look, this is a guy who protects his reputation and has no qualms about taking people to court if they upset him and letting the public see what he's unhappy about. Now all of a sudden he goes all shy on us and instead of taking us to a proper employment tribunal he opts for the kangeroo court route. Odd that.Anyway i don't think he's ever denied walking out on us, just that he had his "reasons" that he refuses to expand on. Like some claiming diminished responsibility after they shoot someone.Ok, so why would Randy et al allow him to do that, given how wronged they were? Surely a day in court would work for everyone?the cost?The costs, added to the remainder of the contract if the court found in MON's favour? Yep, I take your point.Sorry to piss on your bonfire but the PL rules insist that every PL manager has a clause in their contract that forces them to go through a process of LMA mediation followed by a tribunal. Neither he nor the club had any choice about it. You keep your piss to yourself. what happens when mediation fails? Curbishley, Keegan etc..?
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