Stephen Ireland - Clean Slate?

[The Charmer]

An emphatic No from me.

I tend to agree with Gregnash that there are shades of the SVC meltdown here, but at least Collymore has an affection for the Villa whereas Ireland has nothing but contempt.

If Alex McLeish does give him another chance and gets him performing to the level that some posters believe he can deliver, it has got to rank right-up there alongside Lazarus.

[KevinGage]

If Alex McLeish does give him another chance and gets him performing to the level that some posters believe he can deliver, it has got to rank right-up there alongside Lazarus.

You are Mark Lawrenson and I claim my £5.

[Sarunyu]

IMO McLeish is quite OK to convince average player to perform better. Let's give him a chance.

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Mcleish is a football manager not a shrink. And i would be very suprised if he can "stabalise" Ireland. Give him a couple of weeks of pre season training and lets see what happens .........

[Macho Man Randy Savage]

He'll be given a clean slate and to be honest we don't really have a choice. If the club are planning to cut back then we can't afford to have a player on such high wages sitting in the reserves.

[pablopicasso_10]

ireland is a wanker and can fuck right off as far as i am concerned...

[woody4866]

I want to see what Ireland, Warnock and, ok, Beye can do and if anybody can get them to pull their socks up then McL is The Man.  If he can't do it, nobody can. 

Three - 3!!!...Managers later, this is the crunch.  Go for it, Alex!

If not, then we don't sell them.  No.  We put them in the stocks outside VP and hurl random vegetables and handfuls of unthinkably, unbelieveably, outrageously stinking ordure at them until they are wilting under the pressure of tons of recycleable organic matter. Because they wouldn't play for the Villa.

That's what I'd do.
 
(Mediaeval or what?! )
Make them drive a Range Rover with big Pink Wheels and front grille - thats what I would do
He can fook right off

[N'ZMAV]

ireland is a wanker and can fuck right off as far as i am concerned...

very difficult to disagree here

[dave.woodhall]

ireland is a wanker and can fuck right off as far as i am concerned...

He's not going to "fuck right off" though. Neither is anyone going to take him. We can either let him stay at home on massive wages or we can try and get something out of him for them.

[Lambert and Payne]

Make them drive a Range Rover with big Pink Wheels and front grille - thats what I would do
He can fook right off

I've seen Irelands house, I somehow don't think he's going to see that as a punishment

I've given it a lot of thought, and I just dont want him here, or Beye, I'm willing to give warnock a try though

[woody4866]

ireland is a wanker and can fuck right off as far as i am concerned...

He's not going to "fuck right off" though. Neither is anyone going to take him. We can either let him stay at home on massive wages or we can try and get something out of him for them.

cut our losses and flog him for what we can get - he aint gonna do it for us even if Alex Ferguson was our boss
he did not want to come and he certainly dont want to be here (called Birmingham a shitehole or something)
unfortunately he could be a good player if and when he choses - but he`ll always be a tw@

[Damo70]

Was it nine million he was valued at last year? Maybe Newcastle will top that after his impressive loan spell there. AM needs to try and get him going again. His attitude has stank but theres principles and theres writing off nine million plus wages (plus what he's still owed in signing on fees if he doesn't officially ask for a transfer, which he won't for that reason.)

[pablopicasso_10]

ireland is a wanker and can fuck right off as far as i am concerned...

He's not going to "fuck right off" though. Neither is anyone going to take him. We can either let him stay at home on massive wages or we can try and get something out of him for them.

in theory that would be wonderful if we could get him to "earn" his wages, and for the amount he is reportedly on, if he did "earn" them, then he would be doing the busness for us... and no one would be more delighted than me for him to make me eat my own words regarding his future at the villa, as underneath the mentalist self pitying little arsehole personality, is actually a cracking little player...

however as he has already proven that he is unstable and cant take responsibility for his own negative actions, then its probably best not to infect the rest of the squad, cut our losses and learn from the experience...

sadly, all the talent in the world isnt worth a grain of salt, if the player hasnt got the determination and the desire to improve their own flaws... and when a player blames everyone else for his own flaws, there isnt much hope of them trying to rectify their own issues....

[Legion]

He reminds me of The Mekon.

[rob_bridge]

McLeish has a good record dealing with idiots players and fans - about 20,000 of them on a regular basis recently   ) so maybe it is worth a punt. Does anyone want him for the wages he is on? Doubt it unless our Geordie freinds take him for 8m.

As Dave said he isn't just going to fupp off though however much we want him too.

I said before McLeish (for his many limitations) will never do what Houllier did and antagonise so many senior players so quickly. At least McLeish has the self awareness that he has a very hostile 'audience' to win over. Clueless Clousseau was 'surprised' by the reaction after his Liverpool Love-in despite many decades in football.