McLeish meets fans - notes from MM...

[OzVilla]

I think the uncomfortable fact is that I honestly don't think those Managers you describe wanted to come.

[Ger Regan]

It wasn't a choice between McLeish or Redknapp though was it?  There were plenty of other candidates out there, a number of whom didn't have any relegations on their CV plus plenty of cups and titles to boot.

I know what you're saying and of course I'll support the team whoever is in charge but I think it's perfectly justified to be critical of the selection process, such as it was, and the eventual appointment. 

It is perfectly possible to be critical, but that's not the issue. The fool went way beyond being critical, and, justifiably in my opinion, got pelters for it. Anyone that hopes for us to be around the relegation zone, for any reason, deserves everything they get on here.

[pedro25]

We can't play Gabby and Bent, 2 wingers and an attacking centre mid like Ireland, in my opinion.  Makoun, Petrov, Delph and Bannan would all be better utilised in a central midfield 3, and are not strong enough for a two, never mind a 1, with 5 attackers in front of them, again imho.

[The Situation]

Ireland just does not work in 4-4-2.

He needs to be played in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 formation.

[UsualSuspect]

Gabby scored all his goals last year when Bent was on the pitch.

But Bent scores more when he's upfront alone.

I would go 4-3-3.

All the way

Changing to a 4-5-1

I personally think bent and gabby would be a disaster

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                                Bent

I would like to see Delph as the one pushing on

[hilts_coolerking]

It is perfectly possible to be critical, but that's not the issue. The fool went way beyond being critical, and, justifiably in my opinion, got pelters for it. Anyone that hopes for us to be around the relegation zone, for any reason, deserves everything they get on here.

Best to ignore the extremes of opinion - those who want us to lose and those who think pessimism is heretical.

[Chris Smith]

It is perfectly possible to be critical, but that's not the issue. The fool went way beyond being critical, and, justifiably in my opinion, got pelters for it. Anyone that hopes for us to be around the relegation zone, for any reason, deserves everything they get on here.

Best to ignore the extremes of opinion - those who want us to lose and those who think pessimism is heretical.

I'm neither optimistic nor pessimistic about McLeish, I genuinely am open minded and giving him the chance to demonstrate what he can do. I can't see the point of taking any other stance unless it is to set yourself up to be able to say "told ya".

[Ger Regan]

Best to ignore the extremes of opinion - those who want us to lose and those who think pessimism is heretical.

I can't remember seeing many, or any, posts from people who think that pessimism is heretical  (this sounds like a new phrase for "happy clapper", as in a group who are willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the board / new manager. And I'd argue strongly that this isn't an extreme opinion). But I've seen more than enough people on here with views similar to McLeishOUT, and I think that they should be confronted and ridiculed when they come out with their stupidity.

[Villa'Zawg]

Best to ignore the extremes of opinion - those who want us to lose and those who think pessimism is heretical.

I can't remember seeing many, or any, posts from people who think that pessimism is heretical  (this sounds like a new phrase for "happy clapper", as in a group who are willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the board / new manager. And I'd argue strongly that this isn't an extreme opinion). But I've seen more than enough people on here with views similar to McLeishOUT, and I think that they should be confronted and ridiculed when they come out with their stupidity.

I haven't seen anyone with the same views as McLeishOUT. Well, not since last week when almost everybody appeared to share his view.

[hilts_coolerking]

I can't remember seeing many, or any, posts from people who think that pessimism is heretical  (this sounds like a new phrase for "happy clapper", as in a group who are willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the board / new manager. And I'd argue strongly that this isn't an extreme opinion). But I've seen more than enough people on here with views similar to McLeishOUT, and I think that they should be confronted and ridiculed when they come out with their stupidity.

I've seen one, perhaps two, people say they want us to lose so to get agitated about it is a bit pointless.  I've said that I want us to do well under McLeish but don't think it is likely.  And have been given a hard time for it.  It gets translated as 'we're doomed to certain failure'.  Exactly the same thing happened under O'Neill.  Some people just don't like to hear dissenting voices I guess.

[Risso]

I don't think Alex McLeish will do well, but I hope he does.  I don't see any contradiction in that personally.

[Ger Regan]

I haven't seen anyone with the same views as McLeishOUT. Well, not since last week when almost everybody appeared to share his view.

Oh no we fucking didn't. Again, there's a hell of a difference between people with genuine concerns over the appointment, and him who wants us to be in a relegation scrap by Christmas.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't think Alex McLeish will do well, but I hope he does.  I don't see any contradiction in that personally.

Nor me.

Why should we not be optimistic or pessimistic as to what will happen? It's not as if he's arrived here from a different planet (well, I suppose he has, in a way) and nobody had ever heard of him before.

He's got a managerial record to be seen, and people see that and either feel optimistic or pessimistic about the way it'll go. That doesn't mean they're not hoping for the very best, though.

It's like when we signed Harewood. There were plenty of people getting the hump at people moaning it was a shit signing, as if we weren't supposed to have any opinion of him based on his career to that point.

[not3bad]

Ireland at his best would be ideal to feed the strikers with his passing skills- let's hope eck can get him back to his best.

I read an article by a Manchester City fan and from what he was saying this is the only position that Ireland excels in.  To me it is worth a go though.  Reo Coker (if her returns) protecting the defense, Makoun as a link player, Ireland in the hole and Downing or Albrighton out wide with Gabby and Bent up front.

[Stu]

Look at the fixture list, top 4 by xmas should be obtainable if he's got something about him.

I'm starting to suspect you are a nose on a wind up.

I suspected that instantly.