McLeish meets fans - notes from MM...

[Dave]

but i don't think speaking to a couple of knowledgeable fanzine editors (Well 1........ Probably.) of a certain age is going to make the rank and file change their mind one way or the other

I'm pretty sure that wasn't the aim of the meeting.

[Toronto Villa]

Hang on, let me try to understand this.

There are Villa fans on here who actually want Villa to lose most of our games in the early part of the season?

And if we don't lose most of our games and are doing well they won't be happy because that will mean the manager who is in charge of this winning team will stay in charge?

But it's not all about him being an ex-Blues manager right?

Dave, you're going to hurt yourself if you try and understand his logic. I'm at peace now knowing that with every new post he just makes himself look a bigger fool. It's like negotiating with a brick wall.

[midnite]

He had an outstanding team at Newcastle before he left. A lot of people got a beating from them including us. I'd rather have up and coming than someone who's premiership experience is basically how to get relegated from it.

So you'd rather have someone who has 5 months prem experience over someone who has won trophies. Who has experience in the latter stages in the champions league?

How is McLeish not up and coming he's not exactly on his late 70's is he? He wasn't my first choice, far from it, but he seems to have a good deal of respect from inside the game, was making the best of what he got down at SHA but that wasn't enough.
Hasnt Harry redknapp got a relegation on his CV? Didn't stop him from getting spurs into the champions league

[D.boy]

Sometimes short-term pain is required for long-term gain. Even the bluenoses have a better manager than us! Nothing against the man as a person, everything against him as a manager.

Do you really think there will be enough McLeish haters that he would consider walking out. If you think your going to drive him out then you are seriously deluded.
The majority of us were suprised with his appointment however Randy is the owner if the club and that means he does the hiring/firing not us. We are supporters of the club but the team management/selection is out of our control and we have to accept it. The only impact we can have is by creating a good atmosphere and encouraging the team during the match.
Villa Park will get a reputation for a bunch of moaners if things aren't going our way after 10 mins and that will be detrimental to the team if the crowd get on their backs.
I am not McLeish's biggest fan however have accepted he is our manager and wait to see how it pans out.
I wouldn't let the fact that he was employed by them that are obsessed with us cloud my judgement. His previous employers were a circus and the squad was a lot worse than ours yet they still won a trophy (and got relegated).
It will be interesting to see how he does with our squad and Randy's backing (without interfering).
Like him or not we have to give him a chance.

[Greg N'Ash]

but i don't think speaking to a couple of knowledgeable fanzine editors (Well 1........ Probably.) of a certain age is going to make the rank and file change their mind one way or the other

I'm pretty sure that wasn't the aim of the meeting.

well what was the aim then?

[dave.woodhall]

but i don't think speaking to a couple of knowledgeable fanzine editors (Well 1........ Probably.) of a certain age is going to make the rank and file change their mind one way or the other

I'm pretty sure that wasn't the aim of the meeting.

well what was the aim thern?

To give you something else to moan about.

[Greg N'Ash]

but i don't think speaking to a couple of knowledgeable fanzine editors (Well 1........ Probably.) of a certain age is going to make the rank and file change their mind one way or the other

I'm pretty sure that wasn't the aim of the meeting.

well what was the aim thern?

To give you something else to moan about.

meh. this isn't even on the THE LIST yet.

[McleishOUT]

An historically bad appointment. Nothing he has said in these laughable PR exercises has changed my mind.

Quite amazing how people are prepared to brush over his two relegation's. 

I'll be quite happy to be in or near the relegation zone at xmas if it means getting in a proper manager with a vision. Not a 4-4-2 hoofball merchant.

Mcleish plays percentage football, this isn't going to get us where we want to be. Not an opinion but a fact.

[dave.woodhall]

An historically bad appointment. Nothing he has said in these laughable PR exercises has changed my mind.

Quite amazing how people are prepared to brush over his two relegation's. 

I'll be quite happy to be in or near the relegation zone at xmas if it means getting in a proper manager with a vision. Not a 4-4-2 hoofball merchant.

Mcleish plays percentage football, this isn't going to get us where we want to be. Not an opinion but a fact.

You want us to lose. Yup, that's the kind of supporter we need.

[TheSandman]

If we can get him out by xmas I would consider that a result.

I'm hoping to have you out of here by midnight. You're a troll.

I have a much less kind word than troll in mind.

[D.boy]

My boredom alarm as just gone off.

[Ross]

An historically bad appointment. Nothing he has said in these laughable PR exercises has changed my mind.

Quite amazing how people are prepared to brush over his two relegation's. 

I'll be quite happy to be in or near the relegation zone at xmas if it means getting in a proper manager with a vision. Not a 4-4-2 hoofball merchant.

Mcleish plays percentage football, this isn't going to get us where we want to be. Not an opinion but a fact.

re his record at Blues.  You can't polish a turd.

[Rotterdam 82]

An historically bad appointment. Nothing he has said in these laughable PR exercises has changed my mind.

Quite amazing how people are prepared to brush over his two relegation's. 

I'll be quite happy to be in or near the relegation zone at xmas if it means getting in a proper manager with a vision. Not a 4-4-2 hoofball merchant.

Mcleish plays percentage football, this isn't going to get us where we want to be. Not an opinion but a fact.

As a blues 'fan' I'm sure you're used to being in or near the relegation zone.

[Greg N'Ash]

An historically bad appointment. Nothing he has said in these laughable PR exercises has changed my mind.

Quite amazing how people are prepared to brush over his two relegation's. 

I'll be quite happy to be in or near the relegation zone at xmas if it means getting in a proper manager with a vision. Not a 4-4-2 hoofball merchant.

Mcleish plays percentage football, this isn't going to get us where we want to be. Not an opinion but a fact.

re his record at Blues.  You can't polish a turd.

Yep. its the one thing that gives me hope that Lerner is going to give him money, because if you're looking for a manager to keep you up on a limited budget then AM is probably not far off the worse choice possible. Neck and neck with Avram Grant in fact.

[Dave Cooper please]

Its all gonna come down to results i'm afraid. Get us up the top by Christmas and he may win over some of the doubters. Dragging along the bottom and it will be a car crash.

No middle ground then?
Basically you want us to be doing something we haven't done since Gregory took us top for a short while years ago or it's protest time again?