McLeish meets fans - notes from MM...

[McleishOUT]

PR Bullshit but that is Premier League football nowadays. I don't like his football but thought he had integrity until 12 days ago.

That said he has more self awareness in his receding hairline than the Clueless Clousseau had in 63 years on the planet. And his sidekick McDuff.

Whatever else he is I doubt we will struggle against relegation next season or the one after. It won't be pretty but at least he will try and find out why Ireland and Warnock couldn't be fucking arsed last year. The worst ever divide and rule man manager ever at the Villa was possibly a reason.

And I have said it before I don't want any BigTimeCharlies like Downing who think he is better than he actually is at the club, we had it with Gregory as a player, Gray, Elliott, Hodge, Dorigo, Collymore, Bosnich, Southgate and lots of others. We were never worse off when we lost any of them.

And yes I would like to see NRC back - type of player we need in a scrap. At least he realises that.

Above all I want Faulkner out - the way he has handled the 2 appointments is an absolute disgrace. Hiring Houllier is bad enough, hiring him when he still had work to complete was a joke. And then the trawl though candidates - even Grand Old Duke of York would have been baffled. He couldn't run a bath.

Mcleish isn't fit to inhale the steam off Houllier's piss.

A very poor summary of the situation.

[Ger Regan]

What if he has a better season than Houllier did last season? And for all my defense of Houllier, that is quite possible.

[Greg N'Ash]

well thats the problem - a lot of middle-aged men. I can't imagine its risso or clampy doing the grafitti. Does it actually matter if Woodhall convinces us AM is the messiah, or indeed the opposite

[dave.woodhall]

On Tuesday afternoon I was asked if I'd be interested in meeting Alex McLeish. This morning I was asked if I could get there about three hours later. Given that Bodymoor is a bugger to get to at the best of times, it was good that five of us could make it at such short notice on what I believe is known to the proles as a 'work day'.

It may have been a PR exercise but he didn't have to do it and no other manager ever has; I didn't claim to be speaking for or representing anyone else except me. I don't suppose he gave away any secrets and I hope he got as much from it as we did. It was interesting, not just to talk about Villa but to hear more general football stuff from someone with such a knowledge of the game at the highest level. When you get such a chance you take it.

[McleishOUT]

Ger Regan, Houllier didn't have any time at all at the start of the season. Mcleish doing better than 9th is not just a minimal requirement, but a mandatory one.

[Matt Collins]

Noticed he seems to want to play gabby with bent. Suggests a return to 442. Not sure that's the right answer personally. I think good teams are generally moving away from 442.

Signals seem to be we won't spend very much and will rely on youth. Or am I reading too much into it?

[pauliewalnuts]

I agree, it is an appointment which stinks of desperation and cluelessness, and u think it will end badly, and quickly.

However, there's nothing I can do about it. He's the Villa manager and I desperately want him to prove me wrong, as that means we will be doing well.

I understood the thinking behind the protests last week, although I think they were a bad idea, and I fully understand why people have lost faith in the board - I have too, sadly - but I can't for the life of me see why anyone would think that, but not desperately want to be proven wrong.

What good does bleating on about McLeish out do now? For all I don't rate him, he seems a decent enough bloke, and I couldn't give a shit about where he used to work, do I'll be expecting the worst but hoping for the best.

[The Situation]

Greg, just look at the demographics who attended the protest though. How you know for sure that sort wouldn't be involved in vandalism?

There should be a law that bans men of a certain age dressing like that.

Go stylish or go home.

[pauliewalnuts]

On Tuesday afternoon I was asked if I'd be interested in meeting Alex McLeish. This morning I was asked if I could get there about three hours later. Given that Bodymoor is a bugger to get to at the best of times, it was good that five of us could make it at such short notice on what I believe is known to the proles as a 'work day'.

It may have been a PR exercise but he didn't have to do it and no other manager ever has; I didn't claim to be speaking for or representing anyone else except me. I don't suppose he gave away any secrets and I hope he got as much from it as we did. It was interesting, not just to talk about Villa but to hear more general football stuff from someone with such a knowledge of the game at the highest level. When you get such a chance you take it.

Translation = "there was free food"

[Dave Cooper please]

stick him in at an open Q & A  at Villa Park, first come 1st served. :0)

Would you go?
Want to borrow my sat-nav?

*clicks stopwatch*

Mind you, Dave, you'd probably only go if it was a freebie

*wink*

I'll have you know I paid twice last season.

[rob_bridge]

PR Bullshit but that is Premier League football nowadays. I don't like his football but thought he had integrity until 12 days ago.

That said he has more self awareness in his receding hairline than the Clueless Clousseau had in 63 years on the planet. And his sidekick McDuff.

Whatever else he is I doubt we will struggle against relegation next season or the one after. It won't be pretty but at least he will try and find out why Ireland and Warnock couldn't be fucking arsed last year. The worst ever divide and rule man manager ever at the Villa was possibly a reason.

And I have said it before I don't want any BigTimeCharlies like Downing who think he is better than he actually is at the club, we had it with Gregory as a player, Gray, Elliott, Hodge, Dorigo, Collymore, Bosnich, Southgate and lots of others. We were never worse off when we lost any of them.

And yes I would like to see NRC back - type of player we need in a scrap. At least he realises that.

Above all I want Faulkner out - the way he has handled the 2 appointments is an absolute disgrace. Hiring Houllier is bad enough, hiring him when he still had work to complete was a joke. And then the trawl though candidates - even Grand Old Duke of York would have been baffled. He couldn't run a bath.

Mcleish isn't fit to inhale the steam off Houllier's piss.

A very poor summary of the situation.

A very very poor response to my comments - grow up son. Maybe get yourself a new Username.

[holteender76]

Man from down the roads claret blue army !!!

Im a Believer

In A Mc We trust and ill be behind them all on 20th August roll on ......

[eamonn]

Hmm, surprised he ''gave away'' the fact that wants to re-sign NRC. And mildly disappointed.
He did a job for us but I don't think he's much better than when we bought him from West Ham, and four years on you'd hope we were looking for better. But with Alec's appointment I suppose we're all going to have to readjust our sights somewhat.

[Greg N'Ash]

Greg, just look at the demographics who attended the protest though. How you know for sure that sort wouldn't be involved in vandalism?

There should be a law that bans men of a certain age dressing like that.

Go stylish or go home.

heh! true, but we're certainly not the beating heart of Villa if there is one. People who get rid of managers are the guys in their early to mid 20's who probably have too much of a life to even bother with fan's forums

[dave.woodhall]

Hmm, surprised he ''gave away'' the fact that wants to re-sign NRC. And mildly disappointed.
He did a job for us but I don't think he's much better than when we bought him from West Ham, and four years on you'd hope we were looking for better. But with Alec's appointment I suppose we're all going to have to readjust our sights somewhat.

I may have misheard it, but I don't think he did.