Alex McLeish confirmed as manager

[gaucho1966]

I spoke to a couple of the Scottish fellas in the Blarney Stone last night, one a Morton fan and one a hun. Whilst sober, they thought it was hilarious and they just didn't grasp the logic of the board. After a few drinks they reckoned we are doomed, though the Rangers fan says he was ok for them in a grinding out results kind of way and did a good job in exactly the same manner for Scotland.

We will be hard to beat and well organised. Don't waste your money betting on the third goal scorer was their best advice...

Since when are we taking football advice from 2 Scottish drunks in a chinesevboozer seriously?

[Chris Smith]

Interesting.

How do you think SAF would do on a Blose budget under a Blose board at the sty ?

Amazingly, now that he's Villa manager, McLeish's tenure at SHA has become a brave struggle against all odds.

You'd best get used to that sort of revisionism.
It's called 'The Harewood effect'

Had McLeish been on the verge of managing Spurs, every poster on here would have laughed and derided the prospect.

No, it's called having an open mind. He's our manager now so instead of being one-eyed anti-Blues you look at his record and see the whole rather than just the relegations.

It seems perfectly natural to me to want to see the positives for your club.

[Chris Smith]

I spoke to a couple of the Scottish fellas in the Blarney Stone last night, one a Morton fan and one a hun. Whilst sober, they thought it was hilarious and they just didn't grasp the logic of the board. After a few drinks they reckoned we are doomed, though the Rangers fan says he was ok for them in a grinding out results kind of way and did a good job in exactly the same manner for Scotland.

We will be hard to beat and well organised. Don't waste your money betting on the third goal scorer was their best advice...

Which is just what we'd have got with Benitez yet many on here would gave wet themselves at the prospect.

[robbo1874]

I spoke to a couple of the Scottish fellas in the Blarney Stone last night, one a Morton fan and one a hun. Whilst sober, they thought it was hilarious and they just didn't grasp the logic of the board. After a few drinks they reckoned we are doomed, though the Rangers fan says he was ok for them in a grinding out results kind of way and did a good job in exactly the same manner for Scotland.

Paul, I reckon we'll do OK.  I'm over it now. I'm backing Randy and I'm backing McLeish. Nothing we can do about it now, so lets get behind them. Geeeeeddddintoem, fuck em up. I'd like to see what happens with keeping our good players and new signings coming in. At least we have a full pre-season this time.
We will be hard to beat and well organised. Don't waste your money betting on the third goal scorer was their best advice...

[PeterWithe]

I spoke to a couple of the Scottish fellas in the Blarney Stone last night, one a Morton fan and one a hun. Whilst sober, they thought it was hilarious and they just didn't grasp the logic of the board. After a few drinks they reckoned we are doomed, though the Rangers fan says he was ok for them in a grinding out results kind of way and did a good job in exactly the same manner for Scotland.

We will be hard to beat and well organised. Don't waste your money betting on the third goal scorer was their best advice...

Since when are we taking football advice from 2 Scottish drunks in a chinesevboozer seriously?

I've always set far too much store in what I'm told by blokes in pubs so I prepared to accept this as being something akin to being set in tablets of stone.

[Risso]

I spoke to a couple of the Scottish fellas in the Blarney Stone last night, one a Morton fan and one a hun. Whilst sober, they thought it was hilarious and they just didn't grasp the logic of the board. After a few drinks they reckoned we are doomed, though the Rangers fan says he was ok for them in a grinding out results kind of way and did a good job in exactly the same manner for Scotland.

We will be hard to beat and well organised. Don't waste your money betting on the third goal scorer was their best advice...

Which is just what we'd have got with Benitez yet many on here would gave wet themselves at the prospect.

You're not really trying to pretend that Benitez wouldn't have been a much better appointment are you Chris?  I mean, Man U are always well organised, and they're certainly hard to beat as well, but that's only half the story.  The Blues obviously weren't THAT hard to beat anyway, or they wouldn't have been relegated.

[The Laughing Policeman]

I spoke to a couple of the Scottish fellas in the Blarney Stone last night, one a Morton fan and one a hun. Whilst sober, they thought it was hilarious and they just didn't grasp the logic of the board. After a few drinks they reckoned we are doomed, though the Rangers fan says he was ok for them in a grinding out results kind of way and did a good job in exactly the same manner for Scotland.

We will be hard to beat and well organised. Don't waste your money betting on the third goal scorer was their best advice...

Since when are we taking football advice from 2 Scottish drunks in a chinesevboozer seriously?

So they were the two "advisors" that landed us with him.

[PeterWithe]

Benitiez played defensive football that got him to two European Cup finals, McLeish's version got him relegated.

[robbo1874]

Risso - the way I see it... fuck all any of us can do about it now. Maybe just give the fella a bit of support and see what happens? We can be like spoilt kids that don't get what they want and spit the dummy, or we can at least get behind the man thats took a big decision to have a go, and see where it takes us.

I reckon we'll do OK next season, probably no worse than last. Have to admit I was stunned when we were even linked with McLeish, but now its done, fuck it, get behind him. We just look like cvnts otherwise, if we don't give him a fair go.

[Risso]

Risso - the way I see it... fuck all any of us can do about it now. Maybe just give the fella a bit of support and see what happens? We can be like spoilt kids that don't get what they want and spit the dummy, or we can at least get behind the man thats took a big decision to have a go, and see where it takes us.

I reckon we'll do OK next season, probably no worse than last. Have to admit I was stunned when we were even linked with McLeish, but now its done, fuck it, get behind him. We just look like cvnts otherwise, if we don't give him a fair go.

Oh absolutely Robbo.  Now he's here, there's no alternative to what you say, but it doesn't stop it being a bad decision, and there's no point in pretending that his Premier League record and style of play is anything than other than poor because he's a Villa manager now.  Hope he's able to change at his age, because he needs to.  People will give him a chance now, but his honeymoon period is going to be non-existent because of the Blues connection, but more importantly if he serves up the style of football we witnessed at Blues, it's not going to matter where he came from before.

[Risso]

Oh and as for Benitez, the season they finished runners up they were top scorers in the division by quite a way.

[garyfouroaks]

  Now he's here, there's no alternative to what you say, but it doesn't stop it being a bad decision, and there's no point in pretending that his Premier League record and style of play is anything than other than poor because he's a Villa manager now.  Hope he's able to change at his age, because he needs to.  People will give him a chance now, but his honeymoon period is going to be non-existent because of the Blues connection, but more importantly if he serves up the style of football we witnessed at Blues, it's not going to matter where he came from before.

I reluctantly accept that he is here, and we will have to see how it goes- I am certainly not willing him to fail, and will be delighted if he leads us into Europe.

I really think the Blues connection is being over-played, the problem is that he is not good enough.

What we will have is a period of suspendid animation while wait for his inevitable departure. That Lerner gave him a 50% pay increase is just madness - Faulkner needs to go, now.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

What we will have is a period of suspendid animation while wait for his inevitable departure. That Lerner gave him a 50% pay increase is just madness - Faulkner needs to go, now.

By which time he would have spunked millions up the wall and all the better players have done one and we'll have to start from scratch. It's the fact that we have missed a great chance to appoint a decent name in the game who could have got bums an seats and attracted decent players. They've messed up by setting the employment criteria as they did and then appointing someone who flies in the face of that.

If the board wanted him at the start I could have begrudgingly accepted it but to have dismissed so many better candidates is very foolish indeed.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Interesting.

How do you think SAF would do on a Blose budget under a Blose board at the sty ?

Amazingly, now that he's Villa manager, McLeish's tenure at SHA has become a brave struggle against all odds.

You'd best get used to that sort of revisionism.
It's called 'The Harewood effect'

Had McLeish been on the verge of managing Spurs, every poster on here would have laughed and derided the prospect.

No, it's called having an open mind. He's our manager now so instead of being one-eyed anti-Blues you look at his record and see the whole rather than just the relegations.

It seems perfectly natural to me to want to see the positives for your club.

It's not 'Anti Blues' at all, that's the convenient excuse the media are using, he's not good enough for us and why shouldn't we look at the relegations?
It's pretty poor stuff and we were being told how great Martinez was as he'd escaped relegation twice, by the skin of his teeth.

I'd love to have heard your 'open mind' opinion of McLeish before we were ever involved with him.

[PeterWithe]

I wonder if Ian Holloway was discussed at all, he seemed to do a similar kind of job to McLeish and would have been marginally more popular amongst the fan base whilst costing roughly the same sort of wages.