What would it take to get you back on side?

[madirishvillain]

some very good points there lads,

especially the point about eck making sam allardyce look like pep guardiola

thats what keeps hitting me right between the eyes about eck

not the birmingham connection

but the utter dross Villa fans are going to have to watch next year

[RunRickyRun]

A night's sleep.

I was bitterly disappointed with the selection process but having slept on it, I think he's preferable to both Martinez and McLaren. I'm pretty sure Randy will back him in the transfer market, like both previous managers, and he now has the opportunity to show that he can be a great manager.

He had a catastrophic end to last season but, had we swapped chairman with blues in January, I think he would have guided the scum to 9th and we would be the ones relegated. The fact that he wanted to sign Pav and Nzogbia and  the fact that Houlier was able to sign Darren Bent lends weight to my argument

The boo boys now have an opportunity not to renew (please note I am in no way labelling all the people that do not renew 'boo boys') so hopefully those that do will get right behind the manager and club.

Now to enjoy the rest of the summer...

[jembob]

It's unlikely that we are going to get CL football in the near future so i would at least want us to see some exciting and good quality football. If we finish 9th again and play some really entertaining football then I could live with that. I could put up with dull football if we win things. Sadly I can only see us getting dull football.

I won't be back on side unless we either win something or play entertaining football.

[Damo70]

Haven't read every post so apologies if i'm repeating anything.
Our new manager won shed loads of medals and caps as a player under Alex ferguson.
He took Motherwell to second place in the SPL.
He took over a Hibs side heading for relegation, brought them back up as champions then took them to a third place finish.
He won 2 titles and 5 cups in 5 years at Rangers at a time Celtic had more money.
He won 7 out of 10 games as manager of a limited Scotland side including some notable wins.
He took over a Blues side on the way down, brought them straight back up, took them to their highest position for about 50 years then won them their first meaningful trophy ever. He also then got them relegated although he did have an injury crisis.

I didn't want him mainly due to his relegations in England but he's our manager, he's obviously got some bottle (I don't buy the sugestion he's taking the job for a quick pay-off when it goes wrong) and I want the club to do well so he has my support. The fact that if he is a sucess with us it will stick in the throat of every Bluenose for eternity also appeals to me.

[JUAN PABLO]

Haven't read every post so apologies if i'm repeating anything.
Our new manager won shed loads of medals and caps as a player under Alex ferguson.
He took Motherwell to second place in the SPL.
He took over a Hibs side heading for relegation, brought them back up as champions then took them to a third place finish.
He won 2 titles and 5 cups in 5 years at Rangers at a time Celtic had more money.
He won 7 out of 10 games as manager of a limited Scotland side including some notable wins.
He took over a Blues side on the way down, brought them straight back up, took them to their highest position for about 50 years then won them their first meaningful trophy ever. He also then got them relegated although he did have an injury crisis.

I didn't want him mainly due to his relegations in England but he's our manager, he's obviously got some bottle (I don't buy the sugestion he's taking the job for a quick pay-off when it goes wrong) and I want the club to do well so he has my support. The fact that if he is a sucess with us it will stick in the throat of every Bluenose for eternity also appeals to me.

and his football is dire ..      we will have to see

[Ian.]

Haven't read every post so apologies if i'm repeating anything.
Our new manager won shed loads of medals and caps as a player under Alex ferguson.
He took Motherwell to second place in the SPL.
He took over a Hibs side heading for relegation, brought them back up as champions then took them to a third place finish.
He won 2 titles and 5 cups in 5 years at Rangers at a time Celtic had more money.
He won 7 out of 10 games as manager of a limited Scotland side including some notable wins.
He took over a Blues side on the way down, brought them straight back up, took them to their highest position for about 50 years then won them their first meaningful trophy ever. He also then got them relegated although he did have an injury crisis.

I didn't want him mainly due to his relegations in England but he's our manager, he's obviously got some bottle (I don't buy the sugestion he's taking the job for a quick pay-off when it goes wrong) and I want the club to do well so he has my support. The fact that if he is a sucess with us it will stick in the throat of every Bluenose for eternity also appeals to me.

Blimey Damo, that reads ok. Your right he has got a lot of bottle to come here under such circumstances. I didn't want him but I have a lot of respect for the fella.

I hope that bottle rubs off on our squad.

[olofmilosevic]

He starts with a clean slate for me so I'll judge everything on merit and not on what has happened in the past.

AGREE WITH THIS! we all should

[The Situation]

Make some good signings and not make us play anti-football.

[pauliewalnuts]

He took over a Blues side on the way down, brought them straight back.

On the way down? He joined them in November and had 25 games to save them. It's not as if they were doomed already.

What the hell though. I think it is a dreadful choice at the end of a farcical manager search in which we've looked very amateurish. Worse than that, though, it is a sign of dead ambitions.

Having said all that, though I blame the board for a bewildering appointment,  I don't blame McLeish for taking it.

He seems a decent enough sort, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and get behind him and give him a chance.

As for the board, though,  I've lost all belief in them, and I doubt that is ever coming back. Shame.

[Fingers]

He took over a Blues side on the way down, brought them straight back.

on the way down? He joined them in November and had 25 games to save them. It's not as if they were doomed already.

Quite right.  Keep hearing this one.  7 months and it's surely the manager's responsibility.  Look at Hodgson, his lot survived in less time.

[VillaAlways]

He took over a Blues side on the way down, brought them straight back.

on the way down? He joined them in November and had 25 games to save them. It's not as if they were doomed already.

Hodgson had much less time with WBA and they finished 10th !!

[Fin Feds Dad]

Having said all that, though I blame the board for a bewildering appointment,  I don't blame McLeish for taking it.

He seems a decent enough sort, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and get behind him and give him a chance.

As for the board, though,  I've lost all belief in them, and I doubt that is ever coming back. Shame.
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Totally agree Paulie - the very least they need to do now is to get some one on the board who knows something about football - as they clearly don't. My suggestion would be Graham Taylor in a non exec role.

They have lost any goodwill built up over the last 5 years for me.

A dreadful day and appointment.

[Villanation]

The first game needs to be a very well played win.

The minute we go a goal down the atmosphere will turn so dark it doesn't bear thinking about, you'll see thousands of Villa fans standing rigid, arms crossed and stoney faced, real grim, from there on in its over for him.

[richard moore]

He starts with a clean slate for me so I'll judge everything on merit and not on what has happened in the past.

AGREE WITH THIS! we all should

Yep, with you on that absolutely Chris. I will afford him the same opportunity I would anyone joining a new company and which i would expect myself.  I find myself feeling strangely sympathetic towards the guy...

[dave.woodhall]

The first game needs to be a very well played win.

The minute we go a goal down the atmosphere will turn so dark it doesn't bear thinking about, you'll see thousands of Villa fans standing rigid, arms crossed and stoney faced, real grim, from there on in its over for him.

Yes, well there's nothing like giving him a chance is there?