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Author Topic: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham  (Read 109999 times)

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #285 on: June 03, 2011, 04:08:07 AM »
Percy, Benitez and Ancelotti ARE better managers than Mark Hughes. That is a fact. They are only 3 years his senior and have both won trophies. The fact they have both won trophies in 2 countries is even more impressive. Both have won domestic leagues. The best Hughes has done is 6th, and had the opportunity to push on at City and in reality didn't take it, was a little unlucky but go the boot from the big time.

The argument of whether Hughes may be better for Villa in certain circumstances is totally valid, but to judge a guy on how good he is you look at his achievements. Just like you look at a forward and see goal ratios.

So if a forward plays for Man Utd and has a better goal ratio than one playing for say, Everton, he is better - FACT! Nothing to do with playing for a team that attacks all the time, rather than playing for one that doesn't create half as many chances. Makes you wonder why someone as clued up as Fergie buys these inferior strikers from clubs like Everton when he's already got players with better goal ratios.

And of course, when Stein, Busby, Shankley and Wenger were appointed as managers of the clubs they built into what they are today, there were other managers with more achievements, therefore - better managers - FACT! - who should have got the job before them. If only!

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #286 on: June 03, 2011, 05:21:57 AM »
Reading the dailys i think Highes was overlooked because Villa didn't want to deal with his dodgy agent and sensed that he would be using us as a stepping stone, leaving us as soon as a better offer came along. The times say we have gone back for Ancelotti and Lerner is not put off by his wages, the sticking point though is Ancelotti would want ba very large transfer budget, something that Randy would very nervous about.

Offline The Situation

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #287 on: June 03, 2011, 05:51:26 AM »
Reading the dailys i think Highes was overlooked because Villa didn't want to deal with his dodgy agent and sensed that he would be using us as a stepping stone, leaving us as soon as a better offer came along. The times say we have gone back for Ancelotti and Lerner is not put off by his wages, the sticking point though is Ancelotti would want ba very large transfer budget, something that Randy would very nervous about.
He shouldn't be put off my a big transfer budget. Randy had no problem paying 20 plus million for Bent when we were awful at the time and at that time it was brave money to spend given the position we were in.

Ancelotti didn't spend that much money at chelsea. Torres was an Abrahmovic signing I think.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #288 on: June 03, 2011, 06:30:41 AM »
I've just read in the sun that the door is closing on Hughes I hope not I would like either Moyes or Hughes whoever we get I will be behind 110% has long as they show me they are doing the right things for the Villa I dont mind who it is we do need to make the right appointment for the club and I have faith in Randy getting the right man for the job.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #289 on: June 03, 2011, 07:11:38 AM »
Jesus man have you lost the full stop button on your pc? :-)

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #290 on: June 03, 2011, 07:17:01 AM »
Jesus man have you lost the full stop button on your pc? :-)

No, he's using a female keyboard.  :)

Offline villasjf

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #291 on: June 03, 2011, 09:15:54 AM »
I have read elseware that he has quit but cannot take a job until July.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #292 on: June 03, 2011, 11:49:09 AM »
Is Hughes such a bad option? I'm surprised so many of us are depressed at the thought of him in the dugout. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer Ancelotti, Van Basten, Van Gaal etc but think Hughes would be better than a lot of the other names being bandied about.

Hughes is desperate to prove himself and has done well in his career. I think he could really take us forward over the next four or five years. He hasn't had a job long enough to build a dynasty, this could be his chance.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #293 on: June 03, 2011, 12:01:37 PM »
Well I for one don't want the bastard. He was a dirty conniving player At ManUre and I shouldn't think he's changed one iota.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #294 on: June 03, 2011, 12:04:58 PM »
I have read elseware that he has quit but cannot take a job until July.

I wouldn't worry about that. If managers can walk out on clubs with three or four years left on their contracts I see no reason why he won't leave with a month left if somebody comes in for him. It just means Fulham will be able to demand a token amount of compensation.

I suppose Al-Fayed could adopt a "cut off your nose to spite your face" approach and force him to see out his contract. If it's Chelsea this would be a bad idea though. Fulham have loaned a fair few Chelsea players over the years and it wouldn't be in their interest to antagonise them. Maybe Chelsea could sweeten a deal by offering Kakuta or even Sturridge on a year's loan.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #295 on: June 03, 2011, 12:06:24 PM »
Reading the dailys i think Highes was overlooked because Villa didn't want to deal with his dodgy agent and sensed that he would be using us as a stepping stone, leaving us as soon as a better offer came along. The times say we have gone back for Ancelotti and Lerner is not put off by his wages, the sticking point though is Ancelotti would want ba very large transfer budget, something that Randy would very nervous about.
Heard his agent is Kia whats his face involved with the Tevez Mascherano deals.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #296 on: June 03, 2011, 12:06:41 PM »
I have read elseware that he has quit but cannot take a job until July.

It would probably mean we'd have to pay compensation to Fulham if we want to speak to him before July 1st.

Offline Jotopsy

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #297 on: June 03, 2011, 12:07:11 PM »
Percy, Benitez and Ancelotti ARE better managers than Mark Hughes. That is a fact. They are only 3 years his senior and have both won trophies. The fact they have both won trophies in 2 countries is even more impressive. Both have won domestic leagues. The best Hughes has done is 6th, and had the opportunity to push on at City and in reality didn't take it, was a little unlucky but go the boot from the big time.

The argument of whether Hughes may be better for Villa in certain circumstances is totally valid, but to judge a guy on how good he is you look at his achievements. Just like you look at a forward and see goal ratios.

So if a forward plays for Man Utd and has a better goal ratio than one playing for say, Everton, he is better - FACT! Nothing to do with playing for a team that attacks all the time, rather than playing for one that doesn't create half as many chances. Makes you wonder why someone as clued up as Fergie buys these inferior strikers from clubs like Everton when he's already got players with better goal ratios.

And of course, when Stein, Busby, Shankley and Wenger were appointed as managers of the clubs they built into what they are today, there were other managers with more achievements, therefore - better managers - FACT! - who should have got the job before them. If only!

Well said

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #298 on: June 03, 2011, 12:07:51 PM »
Isn't some of the stuff about Hughes a bit harsh?

He had a clause in his contract allowing him to leave if he gave 30 days notice on June 1st

He's done that.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #299 on: June 03, 2011, 12:10:52 PM »
Isn't some of the stuff about Hughes a bit harsh?

He had a clause in his contract allowing him to leave if he gave 30 days notice on June 1st

He's done that.

That's pretty much how I see it. Zoltan Gera joined Fulham on a free because his contract had run out. Nobody suggested they should feel morally obliged to give West Brazil compensation.

 


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