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Offline frankmosswasmyuncle

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9465 on: June 16, 2011, 09:56:29 PM »
Some of the comments on here are disgraceful, you will regret it if the owner sells up. What if we end up like Leeds did!

You should all respect what Randy has done over the past three years, accept his decision and get behind the club.

Stop Moaning and grow a pair!

The grass is not always greener..............

No offence but is there any chance you might consider changing your user name?
or Twat would be nice

Offline andyh

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9466 on: June 16, 2011, 09:57:58 PM »
Some of the comments on here are disgraceful, you will regret it if the owner sells up. What if we end up like Leeds did!

You should all respect what Randy has done over the past three years, accept his decision and get behind the club.

Stop Moaning and grow a pair!

The grass is not always greener..............

No offence but is there any chance you might consider changing your user name?
Just shortening it to Tiger would be nice.
or wanker

Offline CheeriOneill

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9467 on: June 16, 2011, 09:58:21 PM »

No offence but is there any chance you might consider changing your user name?
Just shortening it to Tiger would be nice.

How about McTiger or TigerLeish?

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9468 on: June 16, 2011, 10:00:25 PM »
Some of the comments on here are disgraceful, you will regret it if the owner sells up. What if we end up like Leeds did!

You should all respect what Randy has done over the past three years, accept his decision and get behind the club.

Stop Moaning and grow a pair!

The grass is not always greener..............

I have a pair thanks.


Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9469 on: June 16, 2011, 10:00:40 PM »
He was relegated TWICE with the Blues.

Just how many times has this got to be trotted out? Change the needle.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9470 on: June 16, 2011, 10:01:01 PM »

I am glad this thread has returned to the real world of breathtaking disbelief that so much could be ballsed up by so few.

If there was ever to be a degree course in football administration (perhaps there is for all I know) the best practice handbook of manager appointment would be called Aston Villa August 2010 - June 2011.

1.   Always be prepared for the possibility that your manager/coach will leave immediately before the start of the season in order to inflict the maximum damage to your football club.
2.   If you have good temporary management cover give him time to steady the ship and do not panic if some heavy defeats happen as the temporary management settles in.

3.   Do not build up the hopes of the temporary manager that a permanent post may be offered then dump him.   A good club servant will be humiliated.

4.   Do not appoint an old manager.

5.   Do not appoint a manager with health problems.

6.   Do not appoint a manager who enjoys the adulation of a rival club.   It will create conflict of loyalties.

7.   If you appoint a manager who is old and/or has health problems have a detailed plan of action locked away in a drawer somewhere for instant reference if your manager cannot manage any more.

8.   When choosing the new manager to replace the sick one choose the one you want, make sure you have enough money to buy him then go out and get him quickly like picking an apple off a tree.   Do not be like a kid chucking sticks up a conker tree hoping what you want will drop in your lap.

9.   Do not tap up other clubs managers or even give reason to be accused of doing so.

10.   Do not treat your club's fans with contempt, the day you need them will come sooner than you think.   Be as open and up front as is consistent with what you have to do but under no circumstances use a front man to insult the intelligence of the club fans with puerile remarks about getting a new manager is not like getting a balti pie from Marks and Spencer.   Respect the fans' intelligence and goodwill.

You have two hours.   Write on both sides of the paper.

You thought of sending this to Faulkner? After all he is our Club CEO and he can look at this now and than.

Offline TonyD

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9471 on: June 16, 2011, 10:01:31 PM »
Chap outside VP (BBC News 24)  said that the press office had confirmed it will be announced in the morning.

Shit

Offline olaftab

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9472 on: June 16, 2011, 10:02:58 PM »

or wanker
Bang on andy.
I was about to post this  but wasn't brave enough.

Offline frankmosswasmyuncle

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9473 on: June 16, 2011, 10:03:49 PM »
Chap outside VP (BBC News 24)  said that the press office had confirmed it will be announced in the morning.

Shit
So they've announced that they will announce the appointment in the morning. Haven't they just done that?

Offline Rigadon

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9474 on: June 16, 2011, 10:03:54 PM »

The reality is that AM is a good manager who has most recently been managing a small club at Blues.  He won them a cup.  He got relegated.  He has managed Scotland.  Managed the latter stages of Champions League.  Take away the Blues thing and he's the perfect candidate for where Villa are right now.  Ambitious.  Hard enough to get our lacklustre 'stars' to roll their fucking socks up as is proven by him stepping up to the plate of crossing the city and riding the two footed tackles from both sets of fans. 

IMO McLeish is going to surprise a lot of people if he is given the chance.  If he's big enough to step up, we should be too.  Or you could go on moaning about it I suppose.


I see absolutely no evidence that he is a good manager. In my view, managing either Celtic or Rangers has it's particular difficulties but in no way constitutes a worthy entry on a Manager's CV. That league is a joke and most of the time AM was second to MON. His international management experience was dismal too.

He was relegated TWICE with the Blues. I know that the he had only been in charge for a few months first time around, but he proved that he was unable to motivate a team of players who were capable of Premiership survival. In the final few games of last season the Blues players couldn't give a damn and seemed happy to wind down their contracts - clearly he failed again to motivate the players. Evidence so far shows that he cannot get players to perform when it matters.

I'm not concerned about his connections with the Blues - I just don't think he' got what it takes to take a club like our further. The hard man routine doesn't work with modern day players and certainly creative players like Downing won't appreciate that approach if that's all the AM is capable of. The more I think about this appointment, the more wrong I think it is.

I think it's arguable MON got the better of him up there to be honest, certainly McLeish's  record is as good.

The Blues got relegated because a key player in Dann got injured at the wrong time.  Just like when the Villa lost Laursen, it made that crucial difference - for us just missing out on Champions League, for them Premier League. 

I see AM as being on a par with Hughes and MON.  It may be unpalatable but that's our level now and has been since Randy took over.  It would take a minor miracle for us to qualify for CL and IMO AM is as well placed as any other gettable manager to have a bloody good go.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9475 on: June 16, 2011, 10:04:58 PM »
He was relegated TWICE with the Blues.

Just how many times has this got to be trotted out? Change the needle.

Trott out what?  Oh yes he relegated them TWICE...in normal like he would be a Villa Legend!

Offline Kingthing

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9476 on: June 16, 2011, 10:05:54 PM »
He was relegated TWICE with the Blues.

Just how many times has this got to be trotted out? Change the needle.

I'm no big fan but he also got them promoted twice from a difficult division.

Offline TheEgo

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9477 on: June 16, 2011, 10:06:32 PM »
Dare I say that IF Doug was in charge he would have secured a bigger appointment than this?? (ok then i'll be quiet)

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9478 on: June 16, 2011, 10:06:41 PM »
Interesting how McLaren has said that we approached him. Those things are confidential. Did he not realise that the board were calling him to tell him not to bother applying?

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9479 on: June 16, 2011, 10:07:45 PM »
He was relegated TWICE with the Blues.

Just how many times has this got to be trotted out? Change the needle.

Trott out what?  Oh yes he relegated them TWICE...in normal like he would be a Villa Legend!


.. and has relegated 3 of his last 4 clubs. The exception being Rangers.

 


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