Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[badluckeric(gates)]

sky/talkshite don't really know whats going on. I'd be amazed if it was Mcleish. I still believe.

[Toronto Villa]

My objection to McLeish has nothing to do with where he was managing last year. Had he relegated Wigan or Bolton twice in 4 years, I'd be against him as manager just as much. He's had sufficient resources to have at least kept them in the PL on both occasions. The fact that he hasn't reveals all we need to know about his qualities as a PL manager.

A question for you TV as youre in North America. Does Randy do the hiring and firing at the Browns,if so is his track record shit for the want of a better word? Apologies if im jumping to conclusion and you know nothing!!

I actually work a lot in Cleveland for what it's worth. He took over the Browns in 2002. Since then he's had 2 full time head coaches, but they were hired by the then General Manager Phil Savage. He gives his people rope to do their job. Then as Phil Savage found out just over a year a go, if it doesn't work out, he gets rid of you. The person he appointed, Mike Holmgren is very highly respected in the game, and Holmgren has just made his first Head Coach hire.

The Browns being poor isn't an owner issue in my opinion. The Browns play in a really hard division where 2 of the 4 teams are amongst the best there is every season. NFL owners for the most part are not as hands on with day to day business as most club chairman. With the exception of a few, they hand off their business to executives, GM's etc to run the sports side of the business. I think Randy is doing something similar at Villa which might a weakness as it relates to our football, as much as it is a strength of his management style.

[Cracker1234]

http://www.astonvillalife.com/blog/public-statements-how-many-do-you-want

[john2710]

Whilst all our / the media's attention is focused on McLeish, Randy is busy going about his business to secure a manager fit to manage a club like Aston Villa.
Although I think he's a decent man we won't appoint McLeish because;

1. His 'brand' of football is shite, forget about the quality of players, he signed them. Blackpool had lesser quality players but they played with some style. In over 4 years most Blues fans would agree that the tactics and 'quality' of football was the worst they'd ever seen & over the years they've seen plenty of shite.

2. His success's were mainly in Scotish football, where it's a two horse race & although winning the League Cup with that team / tactics is a major achievement it's something he couldn't repeat in ten lifetimes.

3. His been in charge of a team that's been relegated twice in 4 years.

4. His appointment would go against everything we have tried to do footballing wise with GH for the last year.

5. There are better alternatives that are available.

6. Randy has shown that he's an astute business man, appointing McLeish would be tantamount to business suicide.

7. Almost every single Villa fan would be strongly opposed to his appointment. Randy's not going to alienate his fan base.

I don't know who is going to be appointed but it won't be Alex McLeish

[dave shelley]

My objection to McLeish has nothing to do with where he was managing last year. Had he relegated Wigan or Bolton twice in 4 years, I'd be against him as manager just as much. He's had sufficient resources to have at least kept them in the PL on both occasions. The fact that he hasn't reveals all we need to know about his qualities as a PL manager.

A question for you TV as youre in North America. Does Randy do the hiring and firing at the Browns,if so is his track record shit for the want of a better word? Apologies if im jumping to conclusion and you know nothing!!

I actually work a lot in Cleveland for what it's worth. He took over the Browns in 2002. Since then he's had 2 full time head coaches, but they were hired by the then General Manager Phil Savage. He gives his people rope to do their job. Then as Phil Savage found out just over a year a go, if it doesn't work out, he gets rid of you. The person he appointed, Mike Holmgren is very highly respected in the game, and Holmgren has just made his first Head Coach hire.

The Browns being poor isn't an owner issue in my opinion. The Browns play in a really hard division where 2 of the 4 teams are amongst the best there is every season. NFL owners for the most part are not as hands on with day to day business as most club chairman. With the exception of a few, they hand off their business to executives, GM's etc to run the sports side of the business. I think Randy is doing something similar at Villa which might a weakness as it relates to our football, as much as it is a strength of his management style.

A useful insight. Thank you for that.

[RogerS]

My objection to McLeish has nothing to do with where he was managing last year. Had he relegated Wigan or Bolton twice in 4 years, I'd be against him as manager just as much. He's had sufficient resources to have at least kept them in the PL on both occasions. The fact that he hasn't reveals all we need to know about his qualities as a PL manager.

A question for you TV as youre in North America. Does Randy do the hiring and firing at the Browns,if so is his track record shit for the want of a better word? Apologies if im jumping to conclusion and you know nothing!!

I actually work a lot in Cleveland for what it's worth. He took over the Browns in 2002. Since then he's had 2 full time head coaches, but they were hired by the then General Manager Phil Savage. He gives his people rope to do their job. Then as Phil Savage found out just over a year a go, if it doesn't work out, he gets rid of you. The person he appointed, Mike Holmgren is very highly respected in the game, and Holmgren has just made his first Head Coach hire.

The Browns being poor isn't an owner issue in my opinion. The Browns play in a really hard division where 2 of the 4 teams are amongst the best there is every season. NFL owners for the most part are not as hands on with day to day business as most club chairman. With the exception of a few, they hand off their business to executives, GM's etc to run the sports side of the business. I think Randy is doing something similar at Villa which might a weakness as it relates to our football, as much as it is a strength of his management style.

Thanks for the insight, TV. Much appreciated.  How's life in Canada, mate?

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Whilst all our / the media's attention is focused on McLeish, Randy is busy going about his business to secure a manager fit to manage a club like Aston Villa.
Although I think he's a decent man we won't appoint McLeish because;

1. His 'brand' of football is shite, forget about the quality of players, he signed them. Blackpool had lesser quality players but they played with some style. In over 4 years most Blues fans would agree that the tactics and 'quality' of football was the worst they'd ever seen & over the years they've seen plenty of shite.

2. His success's were mainly in Scotish football, where it's a two horse race & although winning the League Cup with that team / tactics is a major achievement it's something he couldn't repeat in ten lifetimes.

3. His been in charge of a team that's been relegated twice in 4 years.

4. His appointment would go against everything we have tried to do footballing wise with GH for the last year.

5. There are better alternatives that are available.

6. Randy has shown that he's an astute business man, appointing McLeish would be tantamount to business suicide.

7. Almost every single Villa fan would be strongly opposed to his appointment. Randy's not going to alienate his fan base.

I don't know who is going to be appointed but it won't be Alex McLeish

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Whilst all our / the media's attention is focused on McLeish, Randy is busy going about his business to secure a manager fit to manage a club like Aston Villa.
Although I think he's a decent man we won't appoint McLeish because;

1. His 'brand' of football is shite, forget about the quality of players, he signed them. Blackpool had lesser quality players but they played with some style. In over 4 years most Blues fans would agree that the tactics and 'quality' of football was the worst they'd ever seen & over the years they've seen plenty of shite.

2. His success's were mainly in Scotish football, where it's a two horse race & although winning the League Cup with that team / tactics is a major achievement it's something he couldn't repeat in ten lifetimes.

3. His been in charge of a team that's been relegated twice in 4 years.

4. His appointment would go against everything we have tried to do footballing wise with GH for the last year.

5. There are better alternatives that are available.

6. Randy has shown that he's an astute business man, appointing McLeish would be tantamount to business suicide.

7. Almost every single Villa fan would be strongly opposed to his appointment. Randy's not going to alienate his fan base.

I don't know who is going to be appointed but it won't be Alex McLeish

Thank you john! So much sense. We should all agree, have faith in RL and look forward to supporting whoever gets the job. And it won't be McLeish (see above for details!)

[PeterWithe]

Whilst all our / the media's attention is focused on McLeish, Randy is busy going about his business to secure a manager fit to manage a club like Aston Villa.

etc

Just about mirrors my thinking.

[The Situation]

Any truth in that we've contacted McLeish over the job?

[john2710]

Any truth in that we've contacted McLeish over the job?

NONE!

[bertlambshank]

Any truth in that we've contacted McLeish over the job?

No!

[NorthYvillan]

According to DW at Wigan, we wrote to them almost 2 weeks ago asking permission to talk to Martinez. From all that is going on we obviously haven't done this with Small Heath and McLeish. So, apart from intense speculation from a highly frustrated media, why should we think that RL is considering him?

[mozza]

I think McLeish would be a decent signing. I like his approach to the game, he is very defensive minded. I remember his failures(2 regulations), but I don't forget his achievements either. He has won the League Cup and won 7th place last year with Birmingham City, and at the SPL he has won everything. He is a master of defence. If we don't concede any goals, with the best finisher in the league(Bent), Albrighton's enthusiasm and passion, Gabby's speed on counter attack and Downing we will definetely score. We will probably play some ugly football, but winning is all that matters for me.

Sarcasm?

No - I think Tommy Boy has heat stroke where he lives 

[JUAN PABLO]

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