Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[Dante Lavelli]

First it was Hughes, then Moyes, Ancelotti, Jol, Rafa, McClaren, Martinez, today morning was McLeish, now it's Grayson. Can't wait this gets over.

Then the real fun can commence in the Transfers thread.  I can't wait.

[eastie]

get mclaren or hughes-grayson would be another turner, i really be disappointed with mclaren but grayson would leave me feeling our club had gone back to the dark ages .

[tommy_boy]

We should already have hired Mark Hughes last week.

[villa1]

I can't keep up with this thread at the moment. Go away for an hour, come back, and there's 20 pages to read!

[lovejoy]

I cannot justify it, but I like the idea of Grayson

Positives:
1. Young yet has managed at a high profile club with high expectations
2. Has achieved a decent level of success considering the clubs he has been with
3. Has played for Villa so should know a bit about the ethos of the club
4. (If he is any good) I could see him really building something over a number of years

Negatives
1. Never managed in the Prem
2. No evidence of having a decent scouting network
3. Left Blackpool for Leeds, yet it is Blackpool who have progressed further

4-3 winner.

He didn't get Leeds out of the third tier even though they were by far the biggest club with the most resources in the division and last season they didn't make the play offs. I really can't see anything from this track record which is appealing.

[villareal]

What would you think if we appointed Hughes but he insisted in his contract he had a clause to talk any of the Top 4 clubs if they kept calling or an insistence in his contract that he had a minimum amount of money per year to spend on players and if they broke that he could walk out of the contract and sue them for compensation . Maybe that happened with a previous Manager mmmmmmmmmmm

I am totally summising but to dismiss Hughes from the reckoning leads me to think these things

This is the most interesting post for a long time. So this is why MON walked, he did not want to level out wages and insisted on still having x amount to spend in the window! I can understand why RL don't want to repeat that!

This is not only unlikely it is inaccurate with regard to the assertion "What if the previous Manager sued the club under his contract?" or MON walked because of this

1. MON -  He did not sue under the contract  He claimed constructive dismissal .  He was not suing for breach of contract - they are two very different legal actions.

2.  As for a contract being agreed with the Manager having the power to demand a certain amount for transfer funds - nolawyer would allow their client to enter into a contract like that.  An indication for the first year transfer funds may be e given but future transfer funds demands would be the equivalent of being  able to hold the club to ransome. 

No on both counts to your suggestion.  Legally a nonsense .

[tommy_boy]

Moyes will not leave Everton fro Villa. Rafa, Ancelotti, Martinez are out. Hughes has probably ruled himself out. We are left with: Coyle, McClaren, Rijkaard, Ranieri, Phil Brown, Grayson, Curbishley, McLeish. If these are indeed our options I would go with Curbishley or McClaren.

[murfee]

I cannot justify it, but I like the idea of Grayson

Positives:
1. Young yet has managed at a high profile club with high expectations
2. Has achieved a decent level of success considering the clubs he has been with
3. Has played for Villa so should know a bit about the ethos of the club
4. (If he is any good) I could see him really building something over a number of years

Negatives
1. Never managed in the Prem
2. No evidence of having a decent scouting network
3. Left Blackpool for Leeds, yet it is Blackpool who have progressed further

4-3 winner.

He didn't get Leeds out of the third tier even though they were by far the biggest club with the most resources in the division and last season they didn't make the play offs. I really can't see anything from this track record which is appealing.

He DID get leeds out of the third tier in his first full season.

[PaulWinch again]

Under no circumstances should Brown be on the list and Curbishley and Mcleish should definitely not be considered.

[holtepaul]

I believe the board wants a manager with
- PL experience
- not huge budget demands
- develop the young players of the club
- and a manager that is willing to commit, so definetely under the age of 60

Well I want the other way , big name, big transfers and big days out at Wembley

However, if the Villa do want to go down that road, I can't blame them but one question gets me.

Instead of looking at Grayson and all - why not just give it to McDonald and Cowans - they fit all the above. It didn't go great last year, but it wasn't bad, and you knew how much the players felt towards them, wasn't there one game when someone scored and it was a mass pile on with McDonald at the bottom.

I'd rather do that than appoint some of the names we are now linked with

[not3bad]

Under no circumstances should Brown be on the list and Curbishley and Mcleish should definitely not be considered.

Are you sure?  We could perform a new karaoke version of "The Bells Are Ringing" with Brown on lead vocals.

[lovejoy]

Moyes will not leave Everton fro Villa. Rafa, Ancelotti, Martinez are out. Hughes has probably ruled himself out. We are left with: Coyle, McClaren, Rijkaard, Ranieri, Phil Brown, Grayson, Curbishley, McLeish. If these are indeed our options I would go with Curbishley or McClaren.

of those you quote I'd take Ranieri only.

Left field how about Neil Lennon/Alan Thompson? I'm sure Lennon would like the chance to move away from the sectarian hatred.

[rutski]

We should already have hired Mark Hughes last week.

we cant talk to him till july the 1st, you been living on the moon?

[old man villa fan]

Of course he did. The guy had a near perfect bill of health and had to be dragged out, and was,as soon as the season finished.

What I can't understand is why we did that, at considerable expense too, to then be found a week later targeting the likes of Roberto Martinez, and now we hear Simon Grayson.

In January we backed Houllier to the tune of 30 odd million, so to want him out so quickly, having had six weeks notice with his illness, we'd have had the wheels in motion ages ago.

Randy has always put his hand in his pocket, his record on that side is unquestionable in my opinion, but off the pitch things just look a bit clueless. We send Dave Whelan a letter asking to speak to his manager, thinking we are being knights of the game, and here we are with him having made us look like utter mugs.

Amateurish, I'm afraid.

Nothing like saying how it is, or not.  I put you above this type of posting Paulie.  You sound like one of the journalists we have been having a go about.

Some people are saying that we should never have given GH the job because of his health and you are saying he had a near clean bill of health.  He has said himself that he needs 3-4 months more of rest to get back up to speed and then you would have to question whether he was fit to take us forward.  I had a great deal of time for GH and what he was trying to do but even I could see that he needed to step down.

We do not know exactly why Randy wanted to talk to Martinez about the job, it could have been to work with a DoF, we will never know.  Grayson is just today's rumour and you have bitten.

I think Randy gave GH time to recover because I think he respected him as a person and for waht he was doing but could see that he was not going to get back to what was required to maange the club.  Let us not forget, Randy has a lot of money tied up in the club.

The Martinez episode can be seen as which ever way you want to see it.  The one way is following the correct procedure in putting a request in writing to speak to a club's manager to see if he was interested in being considered for the position or the other view is that we offered the job to him and he turned it down.  You consider that Whelan has made us look mugs but, as many have said, we could have gone to town on him but that is small minded and we are above that.

Cool it a bit and give them a little space to get the right man in.  It has, after all, omly been a little over a week.

[lovejoy]

He didn't get Leeds out of the third tier even though they were by far the biggest club with the most resources in the division and last season they didn't make the play offs. I really can't see anything from this track record which is appealing.

He DID get leeds out of the third tier in his first full season.

Sorry my fault I meant in his first season at Leeds you know when they lost to Donnie in the play offs.