Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[timeoutbigbar]

10th-14th sewn up next term.

It smacks of total lunacy to me.

Almost like Randy told Faulkner - go and get that Spanish fella, the one that did well up north. 24 hours later, Faulker brings in the Spanish fella... who is that,.... i want the one who wins football matches!!!

Just despair I really do. For all the good intentions of the board, Houllier was a logical quite well thought out appointment. This one smacks of dropping some LSD and watching re runs of Wigan games on the highlights reel, without the goals against.

I'm game, get a couple of cans, make a night and day of it.  Maybe it'll make things more positive.

[john e]

you got Allardyce, Pullis and MON on one side of the footballing spectrum and Wenger, Roberto and maybe coyle on the other, loads inbetween obviously

would be great to have a manager at Villa with those football principles,
its a risk i agree, but one i would love to see us take

Romantically, it's a superb idea. Bright young manager, sound footballing principles, PL experience, an unknown quantity that might take the league by storm given a very decent squad and a big transfer pot to realise his ideas.

Logically, it's insane.

Sums it up brilliantly.

they were probably saying the same thing at Arsenal when Arsene Wenger was appointed,

[caster troy]

Such as losing 4-0 at home to Blackpool on the opening day of the season...

Though they probably didn't ship 6 at Newcastle either did they? You can prove whatever you want or don't want with individual results...

Exactly, those are the sort of results we need to cut out. Our biggest problem this season was a leaky defence, Martinez doesn't strike me as the ideal candidate to solve that issue.

[philsheard]

I agree its romantic as previously suggested but you would have to worry about our ability to retain our better players and attract players good enough to improve us.

[richard moore]

Such as losing 4-0 at home to Blackpool on the opening day of the season...

Though they probably didn't ship 6 at Newcastle either did they? You can prove whatever you want or don't want with individual results...

See my post on the previous page. I'm not whining because he shipped nine at Spurs, I'm complaining because his average PL finish is just above the relegation zone.

I'm sure if you had parachuted Ancelotti in there during the transfer window, they would have probably finished second....

[curiousorange]

you got Allardyce, Pullis and MON on one side of the footballing spectrum and Wenger, Roberto and maybe coyle on the other, loads inbetween obviously

would be great to have a manager at Villa with those football principles,
its a risk i agree, but one i would love to see us take

Romantically, it's a superb idea. Bright young manager, sound footballing principles, PL experience, an unknown quantity that might take the league by storm given a very decent squad and a big transfer pot to realise his ideas.

Logically, it's insane.

Sums it up brilliantly.

they were probably saying the same thing at Arsenal when Arsene Wenger was appointed,

If they were, fair plays to them. They were probably experts on French and Japanese football and the barometer of success in those leagues. However, we're saying it about a bloke who's managed in a league we all pore over day in day out. On balance of probability, I'd say it's likely he's not up to the job.

[timeoutbigbar]

I agree its romantic as previously suggested but you would have to worry about our ability to retain our better players and attract players good enough to improve us.

I think we'd see a massive change in the personnel if he were appointed.

[john e]

you got Allardyce, Pullis and MON on one side of the footballing spectrum and Wenger, Roberto and maybe coyle on the other, loads inbetween obviously

would be great to have a manager at Villa with those football principles,
its a risk i agree, but one i would love to see us take

Romantically, it's a superb idea. Bright young manager, sound footballing principles, PL experience, an unknown quantity that might take the league by storm given a very decent squad and a big transfer pot to realise his ideas.

Logically, it's insane.

Sums it up brilliantly.

they were probably saying the same thing at Arsenal when Arsene Wenger was appointed,

If they were, fair plays to them. They were probably experts on French and Japanese football and the barometer of success in those leagues. However, we're saying it about a bloke who's managed in a league we all pore over day in day out. On balance of probability, I'd say it's likely he's not up to the job.

i'd say its likely he is,
but hey he aint appointed yet so we may never find out

[pauliewalnuts]

Definitely approached them, quotes from Whelan:

‘I’d be surprised if he is Villa’s new manager,’ said Whelan. ‘I have made it clear to him that I will be extending his contract.
‘Villa have acted above board and in a totally professional manner throughout. They wrote to me asking for permission to speak to Roberto. He was on holiday at the time and I granted Villa permission.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2001191/Aston-Villa-close-Roberto-Martinez.html#ixzz1Oj2sCO8a

[Mazrim]

I cannot believe, in such a time of transition and uncertainty, when we need experienced and strong leadership, that fans think hiring a rookie manager that has not even shone at his current club the opportunity to make all the footballing decisions here is a good idea.

I'm a gambler, I love taking risks and so on, but this is madness.
This is not the time for it and he is not the person for it. I dont seriously think Randy is going to employ him but if he did I would seriously question his judgement for the first time.
So I hope the info from MM comes through and we take this opportunity to start a bright new chapter with a top manager. An appointment that will put us back in the thoughts of the footballing community and inspire the players we have and the ones we need as well as the support. Because as long as Ive got a hole in my arse, Martinez is not that. Not yet.

[curiousorange]

Such as losing 4-0 at home to Blackpool on the opening day of the season...

Though they probably didn't ship 6 at Newcastle either did they? You can prove whatever you want or don't want with individual results...

See my post on the previous page. I'm not whining because he shipped nine at Spurs, I'm complaining because his average PL finish is just above the relegation zone.

I'm sure if you had parachuted Ancelotti in there during the transfer window, they would have probably finished second....

Maybe not, but you may find they would have been safe long before half an hour before the season finished, much as West Brom found when they appointed a manager that was fit for task.

[Greg N'Ash]

Definitely approached them, quotes from Whelan:

‘I’d be surprised if he is Villa’s new manager,’ said Whelan. ‘I have made it clear to him that I will be extending his contract.
‘Villa have acted above board and in a totally professional manner throughout. They wrote to me asking for permission to speak to Roberto. He was on holiday at the time and I granted Villa permission.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2001191/Aston-Villa-close-Roberto-Martinez.html#ixzz1Oj2sCO8a

Christ on a bike. ((

[TheSandman]

they were probably saying the same thing at Arsenal when Arsene Wenger was appointed,

He won the league and cup in France and came close to them a number of other times. Sure he did so at a better club than Wigan but he still won them.

[pauliewalnuts]

I cannot believe, in such a time of transition and uncertainty, when we need experienced and strong leadership, that fans think hiring a rookie manager that has not even shone at his current club the opportunity to make all the footballing decisions here is a good idea.

I'm a gambler, I love taking risks and so on, but this is madness.
This is not the time for it and he is not the person for it. I dont seriously think Randy is going to employ him but if he did I would seriously question his judgement for the first time.
So I hope the info from MM comes through and we take this opportunity to start a bright new chapter with a top manager. An appointment that will put us back in the thoughts of the footballing community and inspire the players we have and the ones we need as well as the support. Because as long as Ive got a hole in my arse, Martinez is not that. Not yet.

Agreed.

It's hard to see how a club which, having sold two high profile players in the last two summers, then sells Ashley Young and appoints a manager whose best achievement is not getting relegated (just) is going to hold on to its other decent players (Downing?), let alone get back to where we were a year ago.

I have nothing against Martinez, he seems a nice chap, he likes decent football, but I can't see a single shred of supporting evidence which suggests he's anything other than someone who is prepared to do the job on the cheap.

What kind of message does that send out to our players, our fans, and the football world?

[omariqy]

That article on the Telegraph states that Martinez arrived back from holiday yesterday so that would be in line with what MM said.  Sad state of affairs.