Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[holtepaul]

Well he didnt say those exact words no - its called paraphrasing - but thats what it summed up to.

here are his exact words (which Sky Sports conveniently took bits from)

I am in no hurry to coach and I don't need to.

"I have not been contacted by any club in England and I have not spoken to Roma. It is all fantasy.

"I have enjoyed the experience of coaching in England. I will return to London to organise my life.

"Besides a six-month break, I have been coaching non-stop since 1995. I will take a year off and look around, study how my colleagues work."

So , he has had no contact from any clubs, so will take a break. It doesnt say he will not speak to clubs if they do contact him.

I remember BFR saying once there was no way he would leave Sheff Wednesday - I've got the best job in football.

In fact, I also remember Alex Fergusun saying "I am retiring, and there is not way I will change my mind"

We will see !

[john2710]

I just wonder if the Barry saga has left a lasting taste with Randy against Rafa? MON was quite vocal in his condemnation of Rafa's methods / lack of class over the whole issue.

Then again who now gives a toss what MON thinks?   

[pauliewalnuts]

Is this the same scouser just been kicked off Villa Talk?? I believe it probably is

You say that as if it's a bad thing.

[Chris Jameson]

I'll not call you 'sunshine' again as long as you promise never to call me 'mate' again. Thanks.

[pauliewalnuts]

Well he didnt say those exact words no - its called paraphrasing - but thats what it summed up to.

No, it isn't, it's called adding crucial bits to the quote which weren't even hinted at, namely - "if I do not get something that interests me" - which entirely changes the meaning of what he said.

I'd like him to come, too, but he's made it quite clear (possibly because he's contractually not allowed to) that he's not going to.

[holtepaul]

aaarrrrrrrrgh !!!!!!!!!!!

No offence but that is one of my big pet hates.

"Who you calling mate, I aint your mate"

I hate that !, you dont know how many times Ive had that said to me by some drunken neangathol

Sorry, just needed to get rthat off my chest

[Iago]

I just wonder if the Barry saga has left a lasting taste with Randy against Rafa? MON was quite vocal in his condemnation of Rafa's methods / lack of class over the whole issue.

Then again who now gives a toss what MON thinks?

I was not happy with Rafa's tactics over Gareth Barry, but he did make that stance in the interests of his own club at the time.

My belief is that a manager must serve the common cause of the club, rather than pander to outsiders.

[Redman]

I just wonder if the Barry saga has left a lasting taste with Randy against Rafa? MON was quite vocal in his condemnation of Rafa's methods / lack of class over the whole issue.

Then again who now gives a toss what MON thinks?

I could understand why anybody associated with Villa might hold a grudge about that.

But Randy is a businessman, isn't he? I hope he'd understand that although the Barry approach was aggressive and underhand, it wasn't personal. At the time, Rafa was working to a tight budget (hence why the deal never happened) but with high expectations. He was just trying to leverage the best deal he could for his club.

[The Situation]

Redman, could you enlighten the Villa fans on Rafa's tactics and his style of football at Liverpool?

From what I can recall when Liverpool played well, they played very well - attacking freely and scoring lots of goals, but when they were bad, they were really bad and would seem to really struggle against the smaller teams having problems of opening up defences etc...

Would Rafa ever implement 'negative' tactics or would you call them 'clever' tactics?

P.S. Ignore the members on Villatalk. That site is a disgrace and certainly does not represent Villa fans, that site is an embarrassment to Villa fans.

[hawkeye]

I just wonder if the Barry saga has left a lasting taste with Randy against Rafa? MON was quite vocal in his condemnation of Rafa's methods / lack of class over the whole issue.

Then again who now gives a toss what MON thinks?

I could understand why anybody associated with Villa might hold a grudge about that.

But Randy is a businessman, isn't he? I hope he'd understand that although the Barry approach was aggressive and underhand, it wasn't personal. At the time, Rafa was working to a tight budget (hence why the deal never happened) but with high expectations. He was just trying to leverage the best deal he could for his club.

That might be so but it smacked of arrogance, "we are Liverpool and if we want to undermine your club and unsettle your best player so be it" lets not get into an arguement about this.

[pauliewalnuts]

I just wonder if the Barry saga has left a lasting taste with Randy against Rafa? MON was quite vocal in his condemnation of Rafa's methods / lack of class over the whole issue.

Then again who now gives a toss what MON thinks?

I could understand why anybody associated with Villa might hold a grudge about that.

But Randy is a businessman, isn't he? I hope he'd understand that although the Barry approach was aggressive and underhand, it wasn't personal. At the time, Rafa was working to a tight budget (hence why the deal never happened) but with high expectations. He was just trying to leverage the best deal he could for his club.

Football's built on hypocrisy.

We were all very annoyed about it, but the first time Benitez did it on our behalf, we'd be squarely behind him.

I think the one thing Benitez does need to be wary of, coming after Houllier, is not to make the same mistakes Houllier did from the start, viz a viz Liverpool - "this isn't a job on the level of Liverpool" - he's perfectly entitled to believe stuff like that, but saying it was out of order and unfortunately it got him off on the wrong foot.

The tapping of the Anfield sign, the waving at the home fans, the obvious love-in while ignoring our fans, then the incredibly tactless "if i have to lose, I prefer to lose to Liverpool" - these were senseless, needless faux pas he made.

They weren't damaging to the level of, say, the Man City Fa Cup cowardice, or some of the rubbish we saw on the pitch, but they cast an unpleasant light on his tenure from the start, and when he needed all the friends he could get, this kind of stuff contributing to there not being many.

I know what Houllier did isn't Benitez's problem, but he'd have to be very canny with that, and tread carefully.

[Holy Trinity]

Well he didnt say those exact words no - its called paraphrasing - but thats what it summed up to.

No, it isn't, it's called adding crucial bits to the quote which weren't even hinted at, namely - "if I do not get something that interests me" - which entirely changes the meaning of what he said.

I'd like him to come, too, but he's made it quite clear (possibly because he's contractually not allowed to) that he's not going to.

i recived an eye injury at work afew years ago and won a years wages through 2 claims injury compensation and unfair dismissal. i decided to take a year off as i had a years salary in the bank. however if i had been offered a job  on similar terms to my old one i'd have taken it. i think thats what pauls getting at, he might of been thinking that but answering diffrently. say one thing mean another. i will be very very surprised if he does take a whole 12 months off

[pauliewalnuts]

Well he didnt say those exact words no - its called paraphrasing - but thats what it summed up to.

No, it isn't, it's called adding crucial bits to the quote which weren't even hinted at, namely - "if I do not get something that interests me" - which entirely changes the meaning of what he said.

I'd like him to come, too, but he's made it quite clear (possibly because he's contractually not allowed to) that he's not going to.

i recived an eye injury at work afew years ago and won a years wages through 2 claims injury compensation and unfair dismissal. i decided to take a year off as i had a years salary in the bank. however if i had been offered a job  on similar terms to my old one i'd have taken it. i think thats what pauls getting at, he might of been thinking that but answering diffrently. say one thing mean another. i will be very very surprised if he does take a whole 12 months off

Maybe you're right, but we need him to make an about turn in the next week or so, not at some point before the 12 months is up.

[Maundy]

I'll not call you 'sunshine' again as long as you promise never to call me 'mate' again. Thanks.

No problem

[hawkeye]

Cheers mate, nice one sunshine.