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Offline Jim Shoes

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1710 on: June 06, 2011, 07:35:16 AM »
Jesus wept!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/8558313/Steve-McClaren-set-for-Aston-Villa-managers-job-as-Martin-Jol-appears-bound-for-Fulham.html

Let's hope it's ill-informed journalism.

It is.  They have no more clue than the rest of us.

It must be rubbish pure and simple as surely the board realise that the attendances, atmosphere etc  would disappear the instant that the clown appeared. They can't be that stupid, can they?

The day that that moron is made manager of Aston Villa is the day I never watch another game, that's how strongly I feel about this.

Now back to the feel good factor that is Carlo Ancelotti.


Offline NeilH

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1711 on: June 06, 2011, 07:42:06 AM »
Jesus wept!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/8558313/Steve-McClaren-set-for-Aston-Villa-managers-job-as-Martin-Jol-appears-bound-for-Fulham.html

Let's hope it's ill-informed journalism.

It is.  They have no more clue than the rest of us.

It must be rubbish pure and simple as surely the board realise that the attendances, atmosphere etc  would disappear the instant that the clown appeared. They can't be that stupid, can they?

The day that that moron is made manager of Aston Villa is the day I never watch another game, that's how strongly I feel about this.

Now back to the feel good factor that is Carlo Ancelotti.



Is it really so bad? He did an absolutely superb job over here in guiding Twente to the championship  and is hugely admired among the Twente fans. Don't let his tenure as England manager cloud your judgement of the man........ Having said that, I'd clearly rather have Ancelotti though ;-)

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1712 on: June 06, 2011, 07:47:14 AM »
The postman wouldnt cope with the returning season tickets, surely Randy and co cannot be so unaware of opinion against brolly wally!!

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1713 on: June 06, 2011, 07:54:49 AM »
Is it really so bad? He did an absolutely superb job over here in guiding Twente to the championship  and is hugely admired among the Twente fans. Don't let his tenure as England manager cloud your judgement of the man...
Hugely admired by twenty fans? He'd be lucky to get half that at Villa Park.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1714 on: June 06, 2011, 07:56:49 AM »
Is it really so bad? He did an absolutely superb job over here in guiding Twente to the championship  and is hugely admired among the Twente fans. Don't let his tenure as England manager cloud your judgement of the man...
Hugely admired by twenty fans? He'd be lucky to get half that at Villa Park.

He's a poor man's David O'Leary.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1715 on: June 06, 2011, 08:12:20 AM »
I do think that reaction was excessive. But  it's not just England where he failed, he also did at Wolfsburg. His boro league finishes of 12, 11, 7, 14 don't fill me with too much excitement either.

Offline NeilH

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1716 on: June 06, 2011, 08:19:56 AM »
Is it really so bad? He did an absolutely superb job over here in guiding Twente to the championship  and is hugely admired among the Twente fans. Don't let his tenure as England manager cloud your judgement of the man...
Hugely admired by twenty fans? He'd be lucky to get half that at Villa Park.

He's a poor man's David O'Leary.

Not convinced by his Dutch Championship credentials then?

To be fair he was always going to be a success out here. He came with a huge reputation to Twente and the Eredivisie was the ideal place to go under the radar after the disaster of England. He took on a team that was already on the brink of success and gave them the extra nudge to ensure it happened. Upon doing this his stock rose greatly and he made of to Wolfburg where it very quickly went royally tits up.
He's no dumbo, but I don't think its the appointment we'd want to see after Houllier.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1717 on: June 06, 2011, 08:42:57 AM »
I'm wondering whether Rafa and Carlo have been scared off by a possible lack of transfer cash whereas Mclaren would be willing to give it a go? I'm hoping I'm wrong as I've no doubt Randy is willing to spend but I'm trying to figure out why they want the wally if the report is true.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1718 on: June 06, 2011, 08:46:35 AM »
It's gonna be that dutch bloke Ssshteve McLaren isn't it.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1719 on: June 06, 2011, 08:47:49 AM »
It's gonna be that dutch bloke Ssshteve McLarren isn't it.

No. Don't even think it.

Offline Mazrim

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1720 on: June 06, 2011, 08:48:31 AM »
How could you prefer somebody who has dnoe ok in this league rather than somebody who was won it?
The players will see that. They wont care how many years hes done and neither do I.

It's more than a PR stunt. If Randy is looking to pay a top manager and seriously back him, I'd want to make sure we're not being used until something better comes along. Hopefully that's not the case but it's something that should be considered.

Who mentioned a PR stunt?
To me its quite simple; hire the best manager you can. Certainly dont consider a hypothetical scenario a couple of years down the line.

That should save a lot of time on planning.
I recognise a lot of Italian clubs operate this way but generally in the PL, unless you're going to throw countless amounts of money around, it normally takes more than a couple of years to see the real benefits a top class manager can bring. Hopefully Randy and Villa will just be what Anceloitti is looking for after Abramovich and the circus that is Chelsea.

Paulie is right about our reputation needing some work if we are to attract and keep the best players. Those players are only going to be interested in signing for us if the manager has a plan and intends to stick around. Even if you don't see this as important, I'm sure the man holding the purse strings does. The fact that Ancelotti spent 8 years at Milan can only be a good sign not lost on Randy when making his decision.

I think you're getting the wrong end of the stick Mark. I'm not advocating a lack of planning. Not at all. I just dont think we should let a hypothetical situation which may or may not happen influence our decision to get the best manager we can. It's up to Randy to get the right contract on the table and no, we should not compromise the future of this club for any manager. I just dont see any merit for an argument where Ancelotti is off as soon as he gets a better offer yet Benitez will stick around and build a dynasty.

Ancelotti has no form for being a journeyman or shipjumper, which adds to his charms. Its certainly a factor in me thinking he's the best man for the job. There's no reason he couldn't feel he could build something special at Villa, even if he won't have the lavish resources he enjoyed at Chelsea. But at least he'll have a free hand without interference so everything he does have to spend he can use as he sees fit and not have some twat-grinned gobshite tell him.
That will count for a lot.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1721 on: June 06, 2011, 08:50:26 AM »
It's gonna be that dutch bloke Ssshteve McLarren isn't it.

No. Don't even think it.

can we get off this page and never speak of second choice Steve again please


Offline Villafirst

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1722 on: June 06, 2011, 08:51:59 AM »
If it's true, why can't Fulham have McClaren and we have Martin Jol who would be ok?

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1723 on: June 06, 2011, 09:04:23 AM »
If it's true, why can't Fulham have McClaren and we have Martin Jol who would be ok?

Without being too mischievous I would like to point out that in a two horse race against Steve McClaren's FC Twente, Martin Jol lost out, despite having the far superior resources at his disposal.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1724 on: June 06, 2011, 09:09:20 AM »
Winding up with McLaren after all this would be not so much a kick in the bollocks as a stamp on them.

Re that Torygraph story today, I can't believe they'd not interview Benitez while favouring McLaren. It would smack of settling for mediocrity. And insanity.

 


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