Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[marshall]

Seems bad news on Ancelotti

http://tinyurl.com/5wt7o6v

Ancelotti faces a year's gardening leave after Chelsea axe
Published 23:01 16/05/11 By Martin Lipton

Carlo Ancelotti is set for a year on the sidelines when he leaves Stamford Bridge - because of a clause in his contract.

Ancelotti is preparing himself for the Stamford Bridge axe, 12 months after becoming the first manager in the club’s history to win the league title and FA Cup Double.

While the Italian wants to stay in England and is set to turn down the chance to return to former club Roma, Ancelotti will not be able to go back into management in this country unless there is a change of heart by the Chelsea hierarchy.

It's understood that under the terms of the three-year deal Ancelotti signed when he joined Chelsea in 2009, he is not allowed to work for another Premier League club within 12 months of leaving Stamford Bridge.


That will force ­Ancelotti to either return to the continent or accept an enforced year of gardening leave.

Ancelotti is still awaiting confirmation of his fate from owner Roman Abramovich. No meeting with a board member is yet scheduled, but the Blues boss anticipates it will come early next week - following Sunday’s final game of the season at Everton.

“We have to wait to see what happens and what will be the decision of the club at the end of the season," said the £6million-a-year Italian.

“We have one more weekend and we just have to wait. I think it will happen after Everton.

“It’s not my decision and I don’t know when the club will take its decision.

"I would like to stay, but if that’s not possible I will find another solution.”

[avfcpg]

Seems bad news on Ancelotti

http://tinyurl.com/5wt7o6v

Ancelotti faces a year's gardening leave after Chelsea axe
Published 23:01 16/05/11 By Martin Lipton

Carlo Ancelotti is set for a year on the sidelines when he leaves Stamford Bridge - because of a clause in his contract.

Ancelotti is preparing himself for the Stamford Bridge axe, 12 months after becoming the first manager in the club’s history to win the league title and FA Cup Double.

While the Italian wants to stay in England and is set to turn down the chance to return to former club Roma, Ancelotti will not be able to go back into management in this country unless there is a change of heart by the Chelsea hierarchy.

It's understood that under the terms of the three-year deal Ancelotti signed when he joined Chelsea in 2009, he is not allowed to work for another Premier League club within 12 months of leaving Stamford Bridge.


That will force ­Ancelotti to either return to the continent or accept an enforced year of gardening leave.

Ancelotti is still awaiting confirmation of his fate from owner Roman Abramovich. No meeting with a board member is yet scheduled, but the Blues boss anticipates it will come early next week - following Sunday’s final game of the season at Everton.

“We have to wait to see what happens and what will be the decision of the club at the end of the season," said the £6million-a-year Italian.

“We have one more weekend and we just have to wait. I think it will happen after Everton.

“It’s not my decision and I don’t know when the club will take its decision.

"I would like to stay, but if that’s not possible I will find another solution.”

Wasn't that clause removed as part of him leaving / getting sacked?

[Dante Lavelli]

DO people really want to watch us play like Blackburn did under Hughes?

When the likes of Bentley, Santa Cruz and McCarthy were scoring more goals than they'd managed since Sutton and Shearer? Doesn't sound too bad to me.

What about when the likes of Robinho, Ireland and Bellamy were ripping teams apart?

He's far from my first choice but he wouldn't be a disaster.

The Fulham fans have been saying how good his football is too.

I'm not sure what to think to be honest.  He comes across as a bit of a MON-lite which has it's benefits, well organised, motivated players.  Another plus point is that he is not so one eyed to only sign UK based players.  Over all I think his transfer record is pretty good.

What he hasn't demonstrated (for me) is two main things.

1.  An inclination to really build a club from the bottom up.  Which admittedly would be hard at Man City and arguably did not have long enough at Blackburn.  So the jury is still out there.

2.  Knowledge of foreign markets.  Again, he played for Barca and Bayern Munich so he might not be as naive here as I think. 

He has huge potential but if I was interviewing him I would want to know how he would plan to improve both the team and the club for the longterm.

[marshall]

I suppose if we paid Chelsea they could get rid of any clause that may stop him joining but he was also on £6 million a year at Cheslea can we really afford that.

[Summers]

One or two posts in favour of McClaren have made me think "oh, wouldn't be so bad". A sure sign I need sleep.

[garyfouroaks]

We have learnt two things from the appointment of Houllier, when Randy appoints a new manager

1) Randy will want to bring in a manager with Premiership experience
and
2) They need to be available.

Assuming he goes the same way again, then we can rule out Van Gaal, Moyes, Coyle, Villa Boas, and any other contracted manager however;

We can rule in; Ancelotti, Jol, Hughton, McLaren and Hughes.

Ancelotti is the absolute stand out manager here no doubt, my only slight concern would be, would he bugger off to a bigger club stating 'Champions League aspirations' like most others connected with Villa when they do well? For me Randy has to do all he can to get in this chap in, it shows ambition, something we deseperately need to gain a feel good factor again at Villa Park

Jol would be my 2nd choice, and if Ancelotti wasn't available then he would be the stand out candidate. Jol I like, good football, works well with young players and is decent in the transfer market. He also knows Europe inside out and is keen to make it in the Premier League.

McLaren - no thanks, he comes across as a good coach but i'm not sure about him as a manager. I think the media would be on his case quickly and i really don't think a manager with his credibility is ideal for Villa right now.

Hughes - I'm not sure about his contractual issues at Fulham, but he is supposedly 'gettable' and is favourite according to the bookies. He done ok as manager of Man City, and plays decent football. I'm not sure he'll be the one to bring success to Villa or bring some of the punters back who are wishing to discontinue being season ticket holders.

benitez has to be in there too.

[KevinGage]

Ancelotti would immediately get the players on side, I think.  The appointment alone might convince Downing (possibly even Ash) to remain.

I have no particular interest in what makes them happy, mind. The flip flopping, the 'I want to stay and sign a contract' and then backtracking on that by both means I'm indifferent to them as individuals. Club England in full effect.  But pragmatically, they are two of our better players and I would want our best players to stay if at all possible.

Thing is, if we go the populist route O'Leary was a popular appointment at the time -with fans and players. O'Neill obviously was too. Yet less than two years in for both and there was talk of players being unhappy (and not just the ones that weren't playing either).  An appointment like Moyes or Hughes might not be as instantly newsworthy or spectacular, but they might be less fractious and actually gain  more respect from the playing staff over time, from their work on the training ground, their demeanour and all the rest of it.

You can have a headstart to a degree, as O'Leary and O'Neill both enjoyed  with their past work and achievements.  But you can lose it pretty quickly if you don't measure up in your current role.

City players were actually angry about Hughes' departure and many said as much. I reckon quite a few Everton players would be upset if Moyes bailed as well.  I can't recall many Villa players expressing remorse for O'Leary. Or O'Neill.

[brontebilly]

to be honest, I dont think using player emotions is the best criteria for selecting a manager. Was Ron Saunders popular with all his players?

There is no guarantee any of the candidates will be a success. Benitez looks the stand out based on his CV. McClaren showed courage going to Holland and Germany, testing himself while many of his contemporaries - MON, Allardyce, Curbishley etc wait for a job and get linked to Cardiff and West Ham. The fans might not like it, nor the players or media but he could well be the perfect fit for us.

Hughes did sign Roque Santa Cruz from Bayern Munich at Blackburn. Also Ryan Nelsen and Samba didnt come from the EPL. He did a good season at Fulham too. But Id worry about him though if given funds like he was at City. He made a lot of poor signings - Toure, Lescott, Barry, Santa Cruz, Adebayor, Given, Bridge, SWP. They were MON esque signings with no imagination and hugely overpaid for all of them.

[Toronto Villa]

The thing with Hughes is he'll be very hungry. You know he feels very bitter at how it all ended at Man City. He strikes me as being absolutely desperate to take a crack at challenging for the top positions because he's spent most of his career at that level. Man City would have given him that, Fulham and Blackburn never would have. He might see Villa as the perfect size club, in the perfect situation, financially and structurally to set about a long term strategy to get us back amongst the elite.

Anyone who thinks we are ready for the top 4 right now is kidding themselves. What we need is league progress and a solid cup display or two. Then in time, we can build for loftier ambitions.

[KevinGage]

to be honest, I dont think using player emotions is the best criteria for selecting a manager. Was Ron Saunders popular with all his players?

It's not the only thing to consider, no.

But you stand a far better chance if players and management are all pulling in the right direction. Saunders was perfect for his time, but an autocrat such as he was  probably wouldn't last too long today.

[Brian Taylor]

So Hughes is not an autocrat? That is all right then! Hughes means another several years of middling achievement.. demotion no, but also Top 4 highly unlikely!

[richardhubbard]

Hughes got fulham to eighth, got man city into top 6 before being sacked and got Blackburn into 2 cup semi finals and top 6th

I think he never failed.

He can take us forward.

 I can only see him signing bellamy and partnering bent, which could be interesting and also getting best from Ireland.

[eamonn]

I wanted Ranieri in September but I think we can't afforf to be as ''imaginative'' with this appointment and probably need someone with a more proven, recent record in England.

Whenever I think of McLaren I remember the Lord McGrath's book where he talks about his time at Derby County, where McLaren was a coach; at how the players would take the piss out of him, and his general inepetitude.

[Nev]

Hughes got fulham to eighth, got man city into top 6 before being sacked and got Blackburn into a cup final and into good league position.

I think he never failed.

He can take us forward.

 I can only see him signing bellamy and partnering bent, which could be interesting and also getting best from Ireland.

Which Cup Final is this? Elsewhere we have also had a claim that he has won a trophy as a manager, which he hasn't.

[Deano's Mullet]

I am in two minds. I feel pessimistic at the moment - it doesnt matter who the boss is if we keep off loading our better players every summer. I hope i am proved wrong but we're only going to get so far. On the other hand if we get a big enough name players want to play for then who knows - Randy has shown by signing Bent that the cash is still there. The big bummer is the fucking Champions-plus-everyone-else League. If you're not in it the better players dont want to know. If i had  a choice however i'd pick Ancelotti first and then Moyes.