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Author Topic: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll  (Read 2146427 times)

Online Clampy

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #750 on: June 01, 2011, 11:33:54 PM »
TawkSpawt earlier played a clip of an interview they did with Jol about a week ago and he said he's ready to get back into English football and he still has a house in London. We could do a lot worse.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #751 on: June 01, 2011, 11:35:19 PM »
Well judging by the poll so far , Nick Clegg would be a more popular choice than Hughes.

Doesnt bode well

He's third, behind a highly unlikely candidate and the long-term favourite. Many of the posts seem to say he would be a decent if uninspiring choice but he's hardly wildly unpopular.

Whether he is third or 110th - he has 13% of the vote. I think Peter Snow would have a field day with his swingometer on that one.

Or, put it another way, first game of the season, 40000 Villa fans there, only 5000 of them, would think he was the best option. Won't take much for a banner to appear !

That's right. Just one fuckwit who thinks because he didn't get his own way it's not fair.

Dave

What you on about. "one f^^^^" - its called democracy. Your site has put a poll up, nearly 100 people (which is generally the norm for a poll) have came up with 13% want Hughes.

Whether you like it or not, thats what your site is saying at the moment. Don't blame me if that is the result so far !.

The point is, I think the club are hugely aware that GH did not have the backing of the fans from day one, for whatever reason, fans just didn't seem to warm to the idea of him being manager.

Having now realised the mistake, do you think they would take a chance of employing someone who the fans clearly do not like.

At this moment, giving those results, Hughes may just get away with it (however, if I remember Houllier polled a lot higher than that - somewhere in the 20's) - but if they appointed McLaren having seen virtually all the fans do not want him, can you imagine the atmosphere / and ticket sales if we have a poor start.

There's a difference between wanting someone, and preffering someone else. If the question was 'Do want Steve McLaren to be the next Villa manager?' and 87% said no, then that would be an issue. But at the moment it's just that 87% don't want him as first choice.

I voted for Ancelotti, but I wouldn't disagree with McLaren or Hughes, and think they could both do a good job.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #752 on: June 01, 2011, 11:36:31 PM »
i agree his citeh team played some good stuff. At VP the season before last when we drew 1-1 and no-neck equalised after dunne put us in front I thought their passing and movement was on a different level to ours....but maybe that was because MON was our manager at the time.

that said RL has to go for Carlo!

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #753 on: June 01, 2011, 11:37:13 PM »
Apart from his first season at Rovers. A Mark Hughes team has never finished in the bottom half of the table.

He led Blackburn to a 6th and 7th place finish, three cup semi finals in 4 season's which is success for them at the time. It is how you measure success in terms of what club he was at the time.

The only problem I have with Ancelotti  after the last 12 months we need stability we need at the moment and Hughes and Moyes can give us that, Ancelloti would be a gamble as if we don't finish top 6 or 4 it would of backed fired. Also someone like Ancelotti could jump ship to a bigger club at any time.

After 2 or 3 seasons even Moyes and Hughes can get us to wear we want to be if they are backed by the board and the fans. We need a long term vision not a fancy quick fix.

It took City 2 years with a infinite amount of funding to make the Champions League.

If you think we can make the CL next season or even the season after you are deluded with our finances it would take 3 or 4 seasons at least to make it.

Whoever Lerner hires some people wont be happy, it is his best interest that we do well on and off the pitch, So he will make the decision he thinks is bets for the club and that is all we ask

Whoever we get needs to be a long term appointment.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #754 on: June 01, 2011, 11:40:38 PM »
On that basis though I would go for Benitez. Wants to be in England, wants a project long term and has a score to settle or two, plus has way more pedigree than Hughes, and is only 51, so pretty young manager wise.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #755 on: June 01, 2011, 11:44:38 PM »
What you on about. "one f^^^^" - its called democracy. Your site has put a poll up, nearly 100 people (which is generally the norm for a poll) have came up with 13% want Hughes.

Whether you like it or not, thats what your site is saying at the moment. Don't blame me if that is the result so far !.

The point is, I think the club are hugely aware that GH did not have the backing of the fans from day one, for whatever reason, fans just didn't seem to warm to the idea of him being manager.

Having now realised the mistake, do you think they would take a chance of employing someone who the fans clearly do not like.

At this moment, giving those results, Hughes may just get away with it (however, if I remember Houllier polled a lot higher than that - somewhere in the 20's) - but if they appointed McLaren having seen virtually all the fans do not want him, can you imagine the atmosphere / and ticket sales if we have a poor start.

The day any football club takes notice of a handful of cyber warriors is the day they're in trouble. Fantasy polls are all very well but they fail to take into account things such as whether the favourites are interested in the job. That's why directors are paid to take such decisions and they aren't down to us.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #756 on: June 01, 2011, 11:45:39 PM »
My problem with Hughes is that, well he has'nt really had any success anywhere has he? He's done ok, none of his teams have struggled but other than that....

I doubt any of the top 6 would go for him and i'm not sure Everton would either if they were looking for a new boss. Like i said earlier today, he's Albion's level, maybe Bolton and possibly Newcastle. Not for us though, we can and should do better.

Which will be why he was linked with the Chelsea and Money City jobs in 2008. From memory I think he was interviewed for the Chelsea job but they went with the glamour appointment in Scolari. He obviously got the City job.

A lot can change in three years, granted. But it's not as if he's stunk the place out in either of his jobs during that timeframe. He had MC on course for a decent finish and he probably overachieved based on Fulham's budget and recent league placings.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #757 on: June 01, 2011, 11:45:45 PM »
Apart from the long term project , which only he knows, Ancelotti is exactly the same as Benitez in that way

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #758 on: June 01, 2011, 11:46:34 PM »
It would be interesting to run the poll between those available that we surmise would take it - ie Hughes, Benitez, Jol, McClaren etc.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #759 on: June 01, 2011, 11:54:19 PM »
1:Moyes(unlikley)
 2:Ancelotti
 3:Hughes
 4:rafa(still popular with the red scouse lads i work with)
Would be ok with any of the above, would not want mclaren

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #760 on: June 01, 2011, 11:58:47 PM »
Ancelotti, Hughes, Benitez and Moyes have all enjoyed success of some sort, and it would be somewhat arrogant to dismiss either of them as unsuitable. The difference to me is that Ancelotti and Benitez have actually won trophies, and even if they did that with more expensively assembled teams than they will have at Villa, a record of trophies is more impressive to me than a record of making a team of mediocre players finish slightly above mid-table. There is sometimes a big difference between good and great.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #761 on: June 01, 2011, 11:58:59 PM »
As long as we get one of Hughes, Moyes, Ancellotti, Benitez, McLaren or Jol, we'll have a good manager, so I'm quite relaxed about it.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #762 on: June 02, 2011, 12:00:19 AM »
I don't know...we were in a bad way when MON arrived, but he was very highly rated when we appointed him even if it didn't turn out that way. What's changed? We've finished higher than under DOL last season yet people like Hughes are now acceptable? Downsizing of expectations by the fans or management?

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #763 on: June 02, 2011, 12:04:07 AM »
Both it would appear at the moment.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #764 on: June 02, 2011, 12:08:02 AM »
One thing I do like about Benetiz is that he set his teams up to be flexible, to win depending on who the opposition were, looking at strengths and weaknesses etc.

I think that is why I felt MON had taken us as far as he could. We were quick on the break, got the ball wide and attacked on the flanks. Once the better teams sussed that out, we struggled.

Sad to see GH go. Would have liked to see what he could do, but for the best for all concerned I would think...

 


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