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Offline The Situation

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #585 on: June 01, 2011, 07:28:09 PM »
Mediocre?

For the past 80 years or so yes.

Club Honours

Yep I stand by my quote , weve been mediocre for the best part of 80 years.

1 league Championship & 1 FACup in the last 80 years.

Sorry if my opinion doesnt sit well but thats how i see Aston Villa . 
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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #586 on: June 01, 2011, 07:29:32 PM »
I don't want him, but Hughes keeps reminding me of Ron Saunders for some unfathomable reason. The supporters didn't want him, either.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #587 on: June 01, 2011, 07:31:30 PM »
I don't want him, but Hughes keeps reminding me of Ron Saunders for some unfathomable reason. The supporters didn't want him, either.

It must be his sunny disposition.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #588 on: June 01, 2011, 07:32:15 PM »
Why is it controversial Villa have largely been mediocre since the 30s?I was totally hoodwinked by the fact in my first 2 clear years as a supporter we won the league and then the European cup-talk about giving me false hope!Having said I'd love someone to take the Villa job and really want it-like Moyes at Everton.Spurs managed to get into the champions league, progress isnt impossible.There are some good managers around this time, but I wonder if it might be better to give it someone like Martinez who is hungry, rather than a managerlooking to use Villa as a ticket to get somewhere else.If we got Ancelotti I doubt he'd stay long

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #589 on: June 01, 2011, 07:33:22 PM »
I still can't get over how quick Villa fans are to talk the club down.  Everytime I see a post on here suggesting we go for a big name, be it a manager or a player you always get people talking us down.  just take the premier league, in the combined table for all the season since it started we're 5th.

We're not some piss pot small club, we're easily the biggest club in the 2nd biggest city in the country.  We have done something that very few english clubs can claim in winning the european cup.  We've had more england internationals than any other team by quite a distance.

All this before the fact that we were the club that started the process to form the worlds first football league.

The main failing of Villa in all the time I've been a fan is not selling ourselves well enough, this starts with the fans.  If our fans don't think we big enough to interest a manager who wants to stay in the country and has no other meaningful option why the hell is anyone else going to think we can.  Why are any of our successful players going to want to stay if, as fans, we don't think we're ever going to achieve anything of note again.

Ancelotti is the manager htat will make our owns stop and think that just maybe we are a big club, if he gets a couple of name signings it will just further enhance that.  Breaking the top 4 is about mentality as much as anything.  As fans we have to start thinking that we deserve a couple of seasons at the top table.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #590 on: June 01, 2011, 07:36:06 PM »
To be honest I'd like Carlo most from that list. I don't think we'll get him. Of the others, I'd prefer Hughes or Moyes over the rest. Not massively exciting, but both could push us up the table, and have us chasing the top 6. Whether either could get us in there, or remotely close to top 4 is doubtful. We need a manager who can deliver us 60 points minimum, and then see what that gets us.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #591 on: June 01, 2011, 07:36:48 PM »
I just want a manager who will win us a cup or two and get us far in European competition.

I honestly believe both are achievable, provided we get the right manager and sign some really good players this summer.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #592 on: June 01, 2011, 07:37:28 PM »
dante

I can't work out whether you are serious, sarcastic or a mixture of the two.

However, I actually think you may have hit on the answer. I am not saying Southgate, although it wouldn't harm.

But if you had Ancelotti as you say as coach, why not do exactly that.

Ancelotti would obviously bring in his own coaching team, so why not Gerard be kept on to do that, with a younger guy - maybe Cowans, maybe McDonald to take it over once they feel comfortable.

I don't admit to knowing a lot about Barca, but when I watched the CL final, isn't that basically how guardiola came up , through the ranks , starting with the youth team, setting out his long term plan, setting up networks where he got the likes of Messi from Argentina, Alves for Brazil etc.. then eventually all progressed together to first team and the rest was history.

And whilst that was going on behind the scenes, barca employed coaches to win in the here and now.

DOn't know the names , but the formula sounds correct

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #593 on: June 01, 2011, 07:41:09 PM »
Mediocre?

For the past 80 years or so yes.

Club Honours

Yep I stand by my quote , weve been mediocre for the best part of 80 years.

1 league Championship & 1 FACup in the last 80 years.

Sorry if my opinion doesnt sit well but thats how i see Aston Villa . 
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Why ? Becouse i dont think Villa are the club that you & others seem to think we are.

Check the honours list for every club from 1930 & I bet there are a good half dozen or so who have won more than we have.   

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #594 on: June 01, 2011, 07:42:40 PM »
It'd be nice to be linked to Maradona again - just to spark the imagination again.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #595 on: June 01, 2011, 07:43:12 PM »
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As fans we have to start thinking that we deserve a couple of seasons at the top table.

We don't deserve anything more than many other clubs like Everton, Wolves, WBA etc etc.History has sets expectations that's why Liverpool fans still have such high standards.Villas record is pretty good but not top level-that's being realistic.Everton took a risk on Moyes, he'd only got Preston to the play offs.A hungry manager with something to prove might develop some feeling for the club

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #596 on: June 01, 2011, 07:49:07 PM »
Mediocre?

For the past 80 years or so yes.

Club Honours

Yep I stand by my quote , weve been mediocre for the best part of 80 years.

1 league Championship & 1 FACup in the last 80 years.

Sorry if my opinion doesnt sit well but thats how i see Aston Villa . 

You missed a few League Cups and the small matter of a European Cup and Super Cup.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #597 on: June 01, 2011, 07:52:05 PM »
Mediocre?

For the past 80 years or so yes.

Club Honours

Yep I stand by my quote , weve been mediocre for the best part of 80 years.

1 league Championship & 1 FACup in the last 80 years.

Sorry if my opinion doesnt sit well but thats how i see Aston Villa . 
Fe Fi Fo Fum I smell small heath troll

Please cut out the Small Heath jibes. I believe Luke is a Villa fan. A misguided and ill-informed one (in my opinion, not representative of the Mod team), but still a Villa fan.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #598 on: June 01, 2011, 07:54:31 PM »
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As fans we have to start thinking that we deserve a couple of seasons at the top table.

We don't deserve anything more than many other clubs like Everton, Wolves, WBA etc etc.History has sets expectations that's why Liverpool fans still have such high standards.Villas record is pretty good but not top level-that's being realistic.Everton took a risk on Moyes, he'd only got Preston to the play offs.A hungry manager with something to prove might develop some feeling for the club

thank you for summing up everything I intended in my post so perfectly.

We're Villa fans, why should we care whether other clubs deserve anything?  Villa fans are, as a group, about as manic-depressive as you could get.  We want to win stuff and all go crazy if anyone at the club dare suggest we can't but then don't  think we're capable of attracting people to the club who will help us to win stuff.

We've got a unique situation where we're clearly the best option available (in england) for a world class manager and all loads of you can think about is what would happen when he leaves because we're not a big enough club, it's crazy.  Seriously try thinking positive for once rather than being negative (don't dare say realistic, stupid term used to justify not having the guts to be brave) and thinking that we'd be lucky to get the fulham manager.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #599 on: June 01, 2011, 07:54:45 PM »
Mediocre?

For the past 80 years or so yes.

Club Honours

Yep I stand by my quote , weve been mediocre for the best part of 80 years.

1 league Championship & 1 FACup in the last 80 years.

Sorry if my opinion doesnt sit well but thats how i see Aston Villa . 
Fe Fi Fo Fum I smell small heath troll
Why ? Becouse i dont think Villa are the club that you & others seem to think we are.

Check the honours list for every club from 1930 & I bet there are a good half dozen or so who have won more than we have.   
You're not seeing the potential though, what we won in the past doesn't matter... I do believe we need to take advantage of this oppotunity.

Spurs got into the Champions League (and Everton by finishing 4th, but actually didn't get into the group stages) - why can't we?

Like I said, get a good manager in, make some good signings and we'll see what we do next season.


 


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