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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #405 on: June 01, 2011, 12:54:53 PM »
Redknapp had taken Portsmouth from obscurity to FA Cup winners in a decade. (I accept that they are now heading back to obscurity, due, in part/entirely to the money thrown at Redknapp to get them there.)
Redknapp nevertheless, built a team that won the FA Cup.

So, he'd done a decent job with a low ranking English club. It's hardly fits into the statement of intent bracket that so many people seem to think is so important.

He's been a good appointment for them yet by the criteria many are suggesting he should not have been considered.
I see what you mean. Id love a real stellar name to come in like Van Gaal, Ancellotti, Rijkaard etc,  because it would be such a lift, one which I think we need. A lift similar to when O'Neill/Randy came in (Im not saying we are in any way the shit we were in before they came in btw) It raised spirits and hopes though. Hughes, I believe, could very well do a good job, and I think he possibly could push us up the table. He just isnt very inspiring.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #406 on: June 01, 2011, 12:57:59 PM »
Redknapp had taken Portsmouth from obscurity to FA Cup winners in a decade. (I accept that they are now heading back to obscurity, due, in part/entirely to the money thrown at Redknapp to get them there.)
Redknapp nevertheless, built a team that won the FA Cup.

Didn't over achieve at Wet Spam

Was shit at Southampton

John Sillett won the FA Cup with Coventry - Doesn't make him a potential England manager




I was responding to Chris Smith's post which asked 'What had Redknapp won before joining Spurs that made him such an ambitious appointment?'

I didn't say anything about him being potential England manager.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #407 on: June 01, 2011, 01:01:13 PM »
If we are considering Martinez then we should consider Paul Jewell and Steve Bruce because they both had better records at Wigan. As for his style of football, I will have to study Wigan a bit more closely in future because I don't remember ever being blown away by them.
Very good point.  It's hard to dislike Martinez because he comes across as an intelligent and articulate man but he didn't do a great deal better this season than Holloway, who  - while being a loudmouth pillock - is also committed to attacking football.  Had Blackpool stayed up and Wigan gone down I don't think anyone would be suggesting Holloway.  Or Martinez for that matter.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #408 on: June 01, 2011, 01:05:43 PM »
My only point re. Martinez, is that he put the foundation in place for Swansea's success. The club now have a philosophy of playing good, winning football, and have talented players. Ask a Swansea fan what they think about Martinez.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #409 on: June 01, 2011, 01:08:53 PM »
But Martinez sports that v-neck jumper, tie and suit combination which appears to be so popular among bright young managers/coaches (see Guardiola, Pep and the original master, Mourinho, Jose).

I think I'd settle for a manager who brings that kind of style to the party, all things considered.


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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #410 on: June 01, 2011, 01:10:57 PM »
My only point re. Martinez, is that he put the foundation in place for Swansea's success. The club now have a philosophy of playing good, winning football, and have talented players. Ask a Swansea fan what they think about Martinez.

martinez is an interesting one but villa are a much bigger club than wigan with much greater expectations, id keep an eye on him for the future but would probably go for more experience on this occasion.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #411 on: June 01, 2011, 01:11:00 PM »
Incidentally, if we are considering currently employed managers, like Moyes and Martinez, is that a tacit admission by the board that their strategy when considering a replacement for O'Neill was a mistake?

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #412 on: June 01, 2011, 01:14:58 PM »
Incidentally, if we are considering currently employed managers, like Moyes and Martinez, is that a tacit admission by the board that their strategy when considering a replacement for O'Neill was a mistake?

probably randy has realised its a cut throat business and if you can get your man you have to go for it whether that means upsetting other clubs or not- maybe doug has tipped him off.


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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #413 on: June 01, 2011, 01:17:01 PM »
Incidentally, if we are considering currently employed managers, like Moyes and Martinez, is that a tacit admission by the board that their strategy when considering a replacement for O'Neill was a mistake?

We didn't consider other teams managers when replacing MON as the board didn't want to screw another club over at the start of the season out of respect. Now it is a totally different scenario.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #414 on: June 01, 2011, 01:26:12 PM »
We didn't consider other teams managers when replacing MON as the board didn't want to screw another club over at the start of the season out of respect. Now it is a totally different scenario.
I'm sure they did it with the best of intentions but it was still a mistake.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #415 on: June 01, 2011, 01:30:51 PM »
Looks like I am in a minority here, but I think Hughes would be a good appointment.

He did well with the Welsh national team, better than anyone else before or after has managed with what was a rather limited pool of talent.

He then built an effective team at Blackburn which played reasonably good football (as well as not being afraid to mix it), getting them into the European places. He made some shrewd buys there (Bentley, Bellamy, Santa Cruz) and had players who have flattered to deceive elsewhere playing at the top of their game (Santa Cruz, Bentley, Pederson).

At Manchester City he played good attacking football, and was able to pull off some big name deals when given funds. He was doing every bit as well as Mancini when sacked, and most Man City fans were sorry to see him go, as were many of the players at the time.

At Fulham he took over from a popular manager (Hodgson) which could easily have become a poisoned chalice. After a choppy start he has won the fans over (most want him to stay now), played good football and got them to 8th with very little spend.

Coming in to Villa he has the advantage of having previously got good performances out of some of our 'dead wood' (Ireland, Warnock and Dunne). Whilst I am not happy with the attitude of those three wasters, if he got them back to historical form it would save the club a fair few bob which could be spent better elsewhere. A motivated and in form they are worth maybe Warnock £5m, Dunne £5m, Ireland £10m. That kind of money can't be thrown away lightly by a club with Villa's resource.

He has shown that he can get the best out of players he inherits at all his previous clubs, he has shown he can find bargains and polish rough diamonds (eg. Santa Cruz), he has managed difficult players to good effect (bellamy, Ireland).

Furthermore his teams generally play decent attacking football.

For me he is one of the better candidates, certainly as good as Moyes for whom we would have to pay large compensation to Everton were we to recruit him. Money that would be better spent on the team.

Ancelotti I am not keen on. I like him as a manager, but I am not convinced he would be suited to rebuilding a team on a lower (than he is used to) budget.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #416 on: June 01, 2011, 01:32:59 PM »
I'd be happy to see Hughes as our gaffer. He's never underachieved.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #417 on: June 01, 2011, 01:38:25 PM »
I'd be happy with Hughes or Moyes.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #418 on: June 01, 2011, 01:39:01 PM »
I'd be happy to see Hughes as our gaffer. He's never underachieved.

With what as the reference point?

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #419 on: June 01, 2011, 01:39:12 PM »
i dont want either but if it was a choice between Hughes and Moyes, i'd take Moyes.

every time i see Hughes i just see an ex Man Utd player/legend, and i know it makes me very shallow, but i just dont him around at Villa Park

thats why i always liked the idea of Martinez, someone who could build his own legend at VP and he would be our man someone that made it big with us with no baggage from any other big clubs
[obviously assuming he would go on to create his own dynasty here whilst winning the league a few more times and couple of Champs leagues plus the odd Peace cup ]

 


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