collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by aev
[Today at 09:53:09 AM]


A strange pre-seson by The Edge
[Today at 08:46:49 AM]


Season Ticket 2025/26 by GordonCowansisthegreatest
[Today at 07:47:07 AM]


International Rugby by PaulWinch again
[Today at 07:36:05 AM]


The International Cricket Thread by PaulWinch again
[Today at 07:31:32 AM]


FFP by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 01:56:18 AM]


Aston Villa Women 2025-26 by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 01:41:59 AM]

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll  (Read 2146148 times)

Offline hilts_coolerking

  • Member
  • Posts: 14614
  • Location: Kennington
  • GM : 26.07.2021
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #165 on: May 31, 2011, 02:57:00 PM »
Hughes - just finished 8th with Fulham and when were they last that high? 
Moyes - top 6 regulars, and one 4th place finish, with Everton.

As neither club has the resources Randy makes available at Villa, on top of what is already a pretty decent squad, does that not suggest they are at least capable of matching what MON did?

As it goes I wouldn't want Hughes, but I think both me and Moyes, who I do want, would finish higher than mid-table.

The thing is though when O'Neill walked out we should have appointed a manager who could build on what O'Neill had done, rather than take us backwards as Houllier did.  In my view that is still the task.  I think Hughes and Moyes could probably match what O'Neill did but I have huge doubts about whether they could improve on it - because the three of them are basically of a similar standard.

Benitez and Ancelotti are a class above, in my opinion.  I think they could attract better players and would energise the squad and supporters more than Hughes or Moyes could.

Offline TheSandman

  • Member
  • Posts: 34781
  • Age: 34
  • Location: The seaside town that they forgot to bomb
  • GM : May, 2013
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #166 on: May 31, 2011, 02:57:50 PM »
Moyes to Spurs after Chelsea nick Harry.  Hughes to us.   

Middle of the road manager = middle of the road team. He's done nothing to suggest he'd take us to the next level. Neither has Moyes for that matter. I don't know why people would be happy with either of these appointments, or am I being too picky and unrealistic?

I agree. Especially on Moyes. We've had the solid, safe option before with MoN and those two are very much like MoN. Added to that my irrational hatred of Hughes and I'm pretty meh on the pair of them. I'd like someone more interesting and exciting and hopefully better.

Offline Chris Smith

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 36419
  • Location: At home
  • GM : 20.07.2026
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #167 on: May 31, 2011, 02:58:02 PM »
The other advantage of Benitez and Ancelotti is that they make selling season tickets much easier.

Hughes doesn't.

I would have concerns that the level Ancelotti is accustomed to working at will not have prepared him for the task at Villa. It's a rebuilding job for whoever comes in and with a strict remit as far as wages are concerned.

If Hughes wasn't such a fucking prick he'd probably be a good option as he has more varied experience.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

  • Member
  • Posts: 26039
  • Location: Up and down, i'm up the wall, i'm up the bloody tree
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #168 on: May 31, 2011, 02:58:50 PM »
I think it'll be Hughes.

I think you're right.
How uninspiring.
Surely we can aim higher than that?

Offline pauliewalnuts

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 74471
  • GM : 28.08.2025
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #169 on: May 31, 2011, 02:58:50 PM »
If Hughes wasn't such a fucking prick he'd probably be a good option as he has more varied experience.

He'd need a new face, too. The Ailsa thing is too bothersome.

Offline Concrete John

  • Member
  • Posts: 15175
  • Location: Flying blind on a rocket cycle
  • GM : Mar, 2014
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #170 on: May 31, 2011, 03:00:50 PM »
Hughes - just finished 8th with Fulham and when were they last that high? 
Moyes - top 6 regulars, and one 4th place finish, with Everton.

As neither club has the resources Randy makes available at Villa, on top of what is already a pretty decent squad, does that not suggest they are at least capable of matching what MON did?

As it goes I wouldn't want Hughes, but I think both me and Moyes, who I do want, would finish higher than mid-table.

The thing is though when O'Neill walked out we should have appointed a manager who could build on what O'Neill had done, rather than take us backwards as Houllier did.  In my view that is still the task.  I think Hughes and Moyes could probably match what O'Neill did but I have huge doubts about whether they could improve on it - because the three of them are basically of a similar standard.

Benitez and Ancelotti are a class above, in my opinion.  I think they could attract better players and would energise the squad and supporters more than Hughes or Moyes could.

If you're saying they wouldn't do any better than MON then you may well be right, but saying they are mid-table apointments is wrong, IMO.

As it goes I can see Moyes getting more out of the squad through powers of motivation than we've seen this season, so if he can also use the cash well, as he largely did at Everton, I think we'd have a chance. 

Offline adrenachrome

  • Member
  • Posts: 13804
  • Location: The Foundry
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #171 on: May 31, 2011, 03:02:45 PM »
If Hughes wasn't such a fucking prick he'd probably be a good option as he has more varied experience.

He'd need a new face, too. The Ailsa thing is too bothersome.

He has had the charisma bypass operation and has the dreaded brillo pad hair, but he would tick the safe pair of hands boxes.

Offline Concrete John

  • Member
  • Posts: 15175
  • Location: Flying blind on a rocket cycle
  • GM : Mar, 2014
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #172 on: May 31, 2011, 03:03:41 PM »
I think it'll be Hughes.

I think you're right.
How uninspiring.
Surely we can aim higher than that?

We can aim, but will we land any of those targets?  Moyes is my 'realistic' choice, but Hughes seems to be an obvious choice and wasn't there something about him regrettig taking the Fulham job when Villa became available shortly afterwards??

Offline JJ-AV

  • Member
  • Posts: 9466
  • GM : 26.07.2022
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #173 on: May 31, 2011, 03:06:59 PM »
Benitez and our very own Reina, Agger, Mascherano, Alonso and Benayoun please.

Offline hilts_coolerking

  • Member
  • Posts: 14614
  • Location: Kennington
  • GM : 26.07.2021
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #174 on: May 31, 2011, 03:11:23 PM »
If you're saying they wouldn't do any better than MON then you may well be right, but saying they are mid-table apointments is wrong, IMO.

As it goes I can see Moyes getting more out of the squad through powers of motivation than we've seen this season, so if he can also use the cash well, as he largely did at Everton, I think we'd have a chance.

Fair point, upper mid-table then but that's as far as I think we'd get.

Look at it from the players' point of view: would you rather see someone of the calibre of Ancelotti or Benitez - who have both won the Champions League in very recent memory, among numerous other things - or someone like Moyes or Hughes, who have done solid but unspectacular jobs and never won anything?  And then think of it from the point of view of our possible transfer targets: would they see Villa as a more attractive destination with Ancelotti or Benitez in charge or with Moyes or Hughes?

Offline paul_e

  • Member
  • Posts: 37131
  • Age: 45
  • GM : July, 2013
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #175 on: May 31, 2011, 03:13:17 PM »
Gotta be honest, I don't get the Moyes love in that a lot of people on here are involved in.  Boring team that can't play until christmas, uninspiring manager who would take us back to the same football that loads of fans were complaining about under o'neill.  Lets take a punt at someone big, ancelotti from that list but van gaal would be excellent too.

As for this idea of ancelotti being a manager who walks into top jobs, he only got to that level by doing a very good job at Parma (and somewhere else before... Reggiana?).  He also did a very good job at AC in replacing a lot of their older players who had been on a downward spiral for a few years.  Finally he deserves massive credit for Pirlo.  A decent attacking midfielder when he arrived, a fantastic defensive midfielder 2 years later.

Offline not3bad

  • Member
  • Posts: 12218
  • Location: Back in Brum
  • GM : 15.06.2022
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #176 on: May 31, 2011, 03:24:05 PM »
We should definitely go after Ancelotti.

But if it did come to Moyes or Hughes the counter argument could be that Harry Rednapp had never been near the top 4 until he took over a club that offered the right resources.

Offline lukey27

  • Member
  • Posts: 193
  • Location: Wolverhampton
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #177 on: May 31, 2011, 03:28:23 PM »
Because he's not pulled up any trees anywhere he's been I imagine. Its a run-of-the-mill, 'we're happy in mid-table' appointment. We really ought to be thinking bigger than Mark Hughes.

Don't agree mate. Certain managers don't fit into the fashionable bracket for some supporters. Hughes got Wales to a major tournament playoff and has always exceeded expectations at the club he's been at.

I know I may be in the minority, but if we can't get Ancelloti or Moyes. Hughes would be the man.

Offline Rudy Can't Fail

  • Member
  • Posts: 41403
  • Location: In the Shade
    • http://www.heroespredictions.co.uk/pl/
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #178 on: May 31, 2011, 03:33:39 PM »
Benitez and our very own Reina, Agger, Mascherano, Alonso and Benayoun please.

I expect you'll get your wish for manager. Whether we can pull in those type of players will depend on how much Benitez can 'big up' Villa in the press.

Offline Phil from the upper holte

  • Member
  • Posts: 10142
  • Location: B62
Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #179 on: May 31, 2011, 03:36:26 PM »
My mate heard it was martinez

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal