I think Redman and his alter-ego missed my point. They are debating this thread on the Liverpool.tv forum at the moment and if I could argue my point there I would do so but it appears one has to pay money to be a Liverpool.tv forum member. I hope the posters on here don't mind me addressing the concerns of Redman (Timynwa on Liverpool.tv) and his pal very quickly, should they return to read this thread. I think Redman's view on his thread is:"TimynwaKopiteJoin Date: Jul 2010Posts: 413To be fair for such a ridiculous statement he's actually argued the point quite well. Think he's forgetting what 'history' is though, he's implying history is more important the further back you go ('They didn't even win their first F.A. Cup until the mid-sixties.') but that's just not true. "No Redman. I'm not implying that the further back you go the more important history is. That's what turgidly wretched Liverpool fans say to Chelsea fans. I'm implying that fundamental to football history is the influence of a club. Winning a whole load of trophies before Liverpool did does not make our history far superior to Liverpool's. Being England's most trophied club for three-quarters of the twentieth century does not solely make our history far, far superior to Liverpool's, either. No, Redman, Aston Villa creating league football is what makes our history greater and far more influential than any other club on the planet - and if we hadn't have done it, if we hadn't created this game, your tedious, utter basket-case of a club would not exist. Respect your elders and betters and tell your little friends on Liverpool.tv to stop being such a tiresome bunch of deluded, gloryhunting drama queens. (Chill out - You'll all be supporting Man City within five years and marvelling at their history anyway.)
The interesting thiing is that, for all Liverpool's history (and let's be totally honest about it, it is outstanding), they haven't won the league for over twenty years now. In fact, the last time they won the league was only nine years after the last time we won it, which puts it into perspective somewhat. The CL win was obviously big, but they really do need to win the league some time soon.I remember when Man United went 25 (or so) years without winning the league, then Ferguson did it, and look what has happened since. The difference is that Man United were perfectly placed to profit from the Sky football boom, coming to prominence when they did, and built on it accordingly.Liverpool aren't going to have that luck. In fact, they're going to be trying to regain past glories when it is more difficult than ever, with plenty of teams with as much money as they have and a fading allure.Interesting times.
That's cold Billy Walker.You obviously haven't experienced the magic of the Kop, with the lifeblood of the club - the hardcore support from Cornwall, the shire counties, Scandinavia and Ireland- getting the words wrong to all their songs.They're looking at ways to improve Anfield apparently. Two seek and destroy scud missiles on match day ought to do it.
Quote from: KevinGage on July 08, 2011, 08:44:35 PMThat's cold Billy Walker.You obviously haven't experienced the magic of the Kop, with the lifeblood of the club - the hardcore support from Cornwall, the shire counties, Scandinavia and Ireland- getting the words wrong to all their songs.They're looking at ways to improve Anfield apparently. Two seek and destroy scud missiles on match day ought to do it.I have, indeed, sampled The Kop, Kevin. I've sat in its spine-tingling silence.
I'm looking forward to reading your future posts with your "Liverpoolfc.tv" buddies Redman. Should make for an entertaining season.How do you put up with that lot? It's like a Justin Bieber convention in there. Please don't tell me they all think West Life have a greater musical history/influence than Bob Dylan, too? (They have heard of Bob Dylan?)Out of interest, have you seen the thread on here about how Villa and England were invited over to play Germany prior to the Second World War? Get your buddies to have a look at it. (Let's call it "Homework For The Glory Hunters".) A bit of football education will do them all the power of good.
Hold your horses.This has nothing to do with me.
I have, indeed, sampled The Kop, Kevin. I've sat in its spine-tingling silence.