SSN: "Downing won't commit to Villa"

[PaulWinch again]

I hope it's not true, because we are in massive trouble if it is.

[Nirog72]

Maybe that's what he is doing. Sell Young and Downing, leave with roughly what he put in, he should get the price he paid back for the club. And while he's at it leave us with a manager that nobody really wanted. Was it something we said?

[pauliewalnuts]

Maybe that's what he is doing. Sell Young and Downing, leave with roughly what he put in, he should get the price he paid back for the club. And while he's at it leave us with a manager that nobody really wanted. Was it something we said?

How much more would he have to recoup to get back the money he put in so far?

Surely a fair amount more than that.

[Dante Lavelli]

Why should Randy keep having to cough up money out of his own pocket?
The Kendrick tweet - as I read it - implies that he will again to buy a keeper, but further signings will have to be generated from player sales.

[pauliewalnuts]

Why should Randy keep having to cough up money out of his own pocket?
The Kendrick tweet - as I read it - implies that he will again to buy a keeper, but further signings will have to be generated from player sales.

He doesn't have to keep coughing up money from his own pocket, but if we're going to just stop trying to improve the club, we're back where we were with Doug five years ago, unfortunately.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Why should Randy keep having to cough up money out of his own pocket?
The Kendrick tweet - as I read it - implies that he will again to buy a keeper, but further signings will have to be generated from player sales.

Rumours abound that it's worse than that.
We'll generate about £40m from sales, but only be allowed to spend half of it.

I think we're in the shit.

[Nirog72]

I don't know how much he has put in and taken out (if he has taken out anything). It's probably a big difference in figures anyway. I'm not being critical of him in any way, trying to look at it objectively. If he bankrolled Young and Downing he may argue it's his money anyway. There seems to be less and less clarity around these days about whether the club or the owner are buying players (and yes, there is a difference). While the club owns the players if they bought them soleley with his money (ie outside any resources the club could muster on its own) they may as well be his. Given what we have been paying in wages, I'd be amazed if we can muster up anything to spend on players unless he goes down the side of his couch.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't know how much he has put in and taken out (if he has taken out anything). It's probably a big difference in figures anyway. I'm not being critical of him in any way, trying to look at it objectively. If he bankrolled Young and Downing he may argue it's his money anyway. There seems to be less and less clarity around these days about whether the club or the owner are buying players (and yes, there is a difference). While the club owns the players if they bought them soleley with his money (ie outside any resources the club could muster on its own) they may as well be his. Given what we have been paying in wages, I'd be amazed if we can muster up anything to spend on players unless he goes down the side of his couch.

The club is spending the money on players, not Randy. Randy provides it to the club in the form of loans, paid back with interest - none of it just comes out of his pocket, which is how it should be.

[PaulWinch again]

This is fucking rubbish, and frankly if it's true we have gone from pretty ambitious to one of the least ambitious teams in the league.

[Macho Man Randy Savage]

This restructuring of the club is happening far to quickly and we could be in serious relegation trouble next season. McLeish is going to need to really need to get the team playing as a unit to keep us safe.

[Nirog72]

The difference being he takes it out of his pocket and loans it rather than gives it to us. It's still his money and still needs to be paid back. He owns the club and if he insists the club pay him back before they buy new players that's what happens.

[pauliewalnuts]

The difference being he takes it out of his pocket and loans it rather than gives it to us. It's still his money and still needs to be paid back. He owns the club and if he insists the club pay him back before they buy new players that's what happens.

i don't think anyone thinks it is any different to that - he's funding the club in that he lends us the money - NB not all the money, it's not as if we have no revenue.

If he's decided to grab back his investment, that's his prerogative, but I dread to think what the effects on the club are going to be if he does so right now.

[robbo1874]

Why don't we stop wetting our pants about what might be if this happens, or if this doesn't happen?

Understandable that some don't like change. Fair enough.

The rest of us will jump on, see what happens...??

[Nirog72]

We aren't wetting our pants, we are discussing things? I'm excited about the upcoming season as I am every year. As for change, it can add to that excitement.

[PaulWinch again]

To be honest last season I wasn't excited for the start of the season due our lack of activity. This coming season unless something dramatic happens I'll be dreading it.