Against that there have been some shocking performances, notably Liverpool, Man City and Newcastle away
And they were very, very fortunate to climb up to 9th thanks to other results on the last day.
After MON left and the failed experiment with McDonald a mid table finish was about what most expected, so on that score job done. The PR stuff is a minor consideration and should not detract from the overall job. We've achieved some creditable results, wins against 3 of the top 6 and only Arsenal of the CL qualifiers winning at VP. Against that there have been some shocking performances, notably Liverpool, Man City and Newcastle away and some truly inept defending for a good half of the season. However, from January on things have steadily improved and our points to game ratio has been pretty respectable culminating in 2 very good wins to round off with the team regaining their old confidence.So it's a c+ from me.
Is it coincidence or a consequence that the latter part of the season and the good results coincided with Houlliers absence.
Quote from: gregnash on May 24, 2011, 10:44:26 AMQuote from: UsualSuspect on May 24, 2011, 10:42:08 AMQuote from: gregnash on May 24, 2011, 10:40:57 AMaye. couldn't care less what his feelings are towards liverpool. Like a new manager is going to be in love with aston villa or whether that makes any difference to his ability to manage.So him waving to Liverpool fans and ignoring the Villa fans is okay??I don't care personally. He has some fond memories of his time at liverpool and responded. Some villa fans are too precious imoSpoken by someone who clearly didn't make the 200 mile round trip in the freezing cold to see a spineless performance and then to be totally ignored - oh and to add further insult those ignored are paying his wages too.There is absolutley no excuses for it.
Quote from: UsualSuspect on May 24, 2011, 10:42:08 AMQuote from: gregnash on May 24, 2011, 10:40:57 AMaye. couldn't care less what his feelings are towards liverpool. Like a new manager is going to be in love with aston villa or whether that makes any difference to his ability to manage.So him waving to Liverpool fans and ignoring the Villa fans is okay??I don't care personally. He has some fond memories of his time at liverpool and responded. Some villa fans are too precious imo
Quote from: gregnash on May 24, 2011, 10:40:57 AMaye. couldn't care less what his feelings are towards liverpool. Like a new manager is going to be in love with aston villa or whether that makes any difference to his ability to manage.So him waving to Liverpool fans and ignoring the Villa fans is okay??
aye. couldn't care less what his feelings are towards liverpool. Like a new manager is going to be in love with aston villa or whether that makes any difference to his ability to manage.
Once Gerard signed Bent and fell ill the attack changed - it was apparently Gary McAllister that was the problem, not Gerard. He was hated by the players said the 'insiders' and banner-painters.
When it comes to the PR stuff and GH dropping clangers, we've got to remember that the media play their part, too, in blurring the picture. I certainly got the impression this season that they enjoyed portraying GH as some kind of foreign buffoon. Compare and contrast how they portrayed him in the printed and televised press with Kenny Dalglish, for example. Dalglish loses Torres and signs Carroll and Suarez: Hansen, Reade, Barrett, Evans and Maddock tell the world "King Kenny" is a genius for off-loading Torres. There's no negative spin to suggest Liverpool are a selling club or that King Kenny isn't capable of persuading a genuine world class player to stay at Anfield. The media spun this into a resounding win for Liverpool. Yet Houllier signs Bent and it's all a desperate gamble; the French man has lost the plot and nasty old Villa have mugged Sunderland. If we lose Young this summer will it be spun as a win for Villa? Will it be a case of Villa off-loading a player who has failed to reach the heights of two years ago? Of course not. Villa will be portrayed as a selling club - even if we replace Ashley with a better player.A lot of Houllier's misfortune has arisen from the subtle negativity of the press towards both him and our club. If GH remains with us (and I wish him the good health to remain with us), hopefully he will have learnt that the media reports on Villa in a very, very different way to Liverpool.
"GH and GMac have come ninth in the premier league in their first, not even full, season when even St Martin could only manage eleventh." A silly comparison.O'Neill came in straight after Deadly & DOL's disatrous reign & his first available choice for a team at Arsenal was Sorensen, Samuel, Mellberg, Barry, McCann, Angel, Agbonlahor, Davis, Hughes, Ridgewell, Moore.GH & GM came in after 3 years of finishing sixth and inherited Friedel, A Young, L Young, Dunne, Collins, Warnock, Bannan, Albrighton, Clark, Delfouenso, Delph, Petrov, Reo-Coker, Downing....And they were very, very fortunate to climb up to 9th thanks to other results on the last day.