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Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2011, 11:50:30 AM »
Don't really like Lennon and I think he has brought a lot of this on himself, walking off at Ibrox goading the Rangers fans isn't a good idea. But that is bang out of order.

It's very difficult to turn the other cheek when the match occurs three days after you have received a parcel bomb and whilst walking off the pitch the aforementioned oh so friendly Rangers fans are singing 'What's it like to live in fear?'

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2011, 01:14:10 PM »
I still don't know what it is that Lennon has done to cause anyone to think he has brought it upon himself?

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2011, 01:16:28 PM »
That's the thing, he's done (from what I can gather) no more than what the likes of Wenger, Ferguson, Mourinho have done in the past.

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2011, 01:17:50 PM »
Lennon comes across as a bit of a twat, but even so it should never lead to some of the stuff that he has to deal with. It's football for fucks sake, and the issues in Scotland right now are far deeper than football. Football, especially between the big two is simply becoming a medium to vent anger at the social disorder and economic turmoil up there, let alone the sectarian divisions that have always existed. Something very bad is going to happen very soon, and it appears as though that day is getting closer with incidents like this.

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2011, 01:23:28 PM »
Lennon comes across as a bit of a twat, but even so it should never lead to some of the stuff that he has to deal with. It's football for fucks sake, and the issues in Scotland right now are far deeper than football. Football, especially between the big two is simply becoming a medium to vent anger at the social disorder and economic turmoil up there, let alone the sectarian divisions that have always existed. Something very bad is going to happen very soon, and it appears as though that day is getting closer with incidents like this.

Well there you go. You start by saying he comes across as a bit of a twat. How so?

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2011, 01:24:52 PM »
It's been happening him for years though, he ended up retiring from international football because of the abuse he was getting from his own supporters. You can't really blame someone if they then get a bit arsey, imo.
I was watching SSN before the game, and they were showing an interview with him, he didn't look well at all, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he called it quits in the summer. Nothing is worth being put through all that stress, particularly when you've a family to think of too.

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #51 on: May 12, 2011, 01:29:02 PM »
I've only just learned that he's been battling depression since 2000. If going through all of this wasn't hard enough......

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2011, 01:34:34 PM »
Don't really like Lennon and I think he has brought a lot of this on himself, walking off at Ibrox goading the Rangers fans isn't a good idea. But that is bang out of order.

It's very difficult to turn the other cheek when the match occurs three days after you have received a parcel bomb and whilst walking off the pitch the aforementioned oh so friendly Rangers fans are singing 'What's it like to live in fear?'

Sitting here in work, with a Rangers fan by me, I have been asked to point out that "what's it like to live in fear" was never sung by the Rangers support that day and as he was there, he should know.

He's a good lad actually when I can understand what he is saying and he certainly doesn't condone what has happened to Lennon recently.   He goes with the general opinion though that he doesn't help himself much.

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #53 on: May 12, 2011, 01:41:04 PM »
Don't really like Lennon and I think he has brought a lot of this on himself, walking off at Ibrox goading the Rangers fans isn't a good idea. But that is bang out of order.

It's very difficult to turn the other cheek when the match occurs three days after you have received a parcel bomb and whilst walking off the pitch the aforementioned oh so friendly Rangers fans are singing 'What's it like to live in fear?'

Sitting here in work, with a Rangers fan by me, I have been asked to point out that "what's it like to live in fear" was never sung by the Rangers support that day and as he was there, he should know.

He's a good lad actually when I can understand what he is saying and he certainly doesn't condone what has happened to Lennon recently.   He goes with the general opinion though that he doesn't help himself much.

Could you ask him for a couple of examples?

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #54 on: May 12, 2011, 01:55:20 PM »
Don't really like Lennon and I think he has brought a lot of this on himself, walking off at Ibrox goading the Rangers fans isn't a good idea. But that is bang out of order.

It's very difficult to turn the other cheek when the match occurs three days after you have received a parcel bomb and whilst walking off the pitch the aforementioned oh so friendly Rangers fans are singing 'What's it like to live in fear?'

Sitting here in work, with a Rangers fan by me, I have been asked to point out that "what's it like to live in fear" was never sung by the Rangers support that day and as he was there, he should know.

He's a good lad actually when I can understand what he is saying and he certainly doesn't condone what has happened to Lennon recently.   He goes with the general opinion though that he doesn't help himself much.

Well I heard it.  I watched the game in its entirety.

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #55 on: May 12, 2011, 01:56:17 PM »
It's been happening him for years though, he ended up retiring from international football because of the abuse he was getting from his own supporters.

It was much more than abuse, Ger. He received what appeared to be a serious death threat from a paramilitary group in 2002 and felt that he couldn't continue playing for Northern Ireland.

He's no shrinking violet, but the bullets and parcel bombs in the post, along with what happened last night, are off the scale in terms of what anyone should have to put up with. This has really got out of hand now. They're reporting today that two people have now been arrested in connection with the parcel bombs:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-13371273

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #56 on: May 12, 2011, 01:56:57 PM »
He must have really wound people up for all this trouble stupid man he should just concentrate on football nothing else really.

So his comments were that bad, people have decided to make attempts on his life? He has certainly made some ill-advised comments but to claim the death threats, parcel bombs and bullets in the post are all his fault is a bit much.


The only thing that keeps the revenue flowing in at Rangers and Celtic given the pathetic league in which they play is the intensity of the sectarian hatred between the 2 sets of supporters. Lennon is fully aware of this and it is only this hatred that enables him to be paid as much as he is for managing at such a mediocre level.
Given this any employee of either club who seeks to play on this hatred is knowingly playing a very dangerous game.

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #57 on: May 12, 2011, 02:16:50 PM »
Don't really like Lennon and I think he has brought a lot of this on himself, walking off at Ibrox goading the Rangers fans isn't a good idea. But that is bang out of order.

It's very difficult to turn the other cheek when the match occurs three days after you have received a parcel bomb and whilst walking off the pitch the aforementioned oh so friendly Rangers fans are singing 'What's it like to live in fear?'

Sitting here in work, with a Rangers fan by me, I have been asked to point out that "what's it like to live in fear" was never sung by the Rangers support that day and as he was there, he should know.

He's a good lad actually when I can understand what he is saying and he certainly doesn't condone what has happened to Lennon recently.   He goes with the general opinion though that he doesn't help himself much.

Could you ask him for a couple of examples?

Opened a can of worms now, thanks for that :-)

Story in paper about threatening to "do" his ex

Arrested on a night out with Celtic in Newcastle

40th Anniversary of Ibrox, wouldn't come out until minutes silence was over, after John Greig and Billy McNeill had led teams out.

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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #58 on: May 12, 2011, 02:20:48 PM »
Do we know who the lad who attacked him supported? Was it a Hearts fan, Rangers fan or a really daft Celtic fan?

It is ridiculous. I don't like Neil Lennon but I don't see what he (and especially his family who are likely to get caught up in this) has done to deserve the threats, parcels and attacks that he has been subjected to. He is a bit of an arse at times (the ridiculous situation around refs earlier this season being a strong example) but I just don't see what he has done to deserve being killed (which is what will happen if the madmen succeed).


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Re: 0% Villa: Lennon attacked during Hearts match
« Reply #59 on: May 12, 2011, 02:51:55 PM »
Don't really like Lennon and I think he has brought a lot of this on himself, walking off at Ibrox goading the Rangers fans isn't a good idea. But that is bang out of order.

It's very difficult to turn the other cheek when the match occurs three days after you have received a parcel bomb and whilst walking off the pitch the aforementioned oh so friendly Rangers fans are singing 'What's it like to live in fear?'

Sitting here in work, with a Rangers fan by me, I have been asked to point out that "what's it like to live in fear" was never sung by the Rangers support that day and as he was there, he should know.

He's a good lad actually when I can understand what he is saying and he certainly doesn't condone what has happened to Lennon recently.   He goes with the general opinion though that he doesn't help himself much.

Could you ask him for a couple of examples?

Opened a can of worms now, thanks for that :-)

Story in paper about threatening to "do" his ex

Arrested on a night out with Celtic in Newcastle

40th Anniversary of Ibrox, wouldn't come out until minutes silence was over, after John Greig and Billy McNeill had led teams out.

Pretty feeble examples really. He should be honest and let you know the real reason for the hatred. That is of course the fact that he was a current Northern Ireland international when he signed for Celtic.

 


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