The future of Houllier and McAllister?

[Risso]

I don't think Houllier was good enough when he was appointed, and I don't think he's good enough now.  Add in his health problems and it would be absolute madness to retain his services.

[VillaAlways]

I don't think Houllier was good enough when he was appointed, and I don't think he's good enough now.  Add in his health problems and it would be absolute madness to retain his services.

If he's deemed fit to work he's here to stay I'm afraid or else why bother waiting for the medical report ?

[Concrete John]

If he's deemed fit to work he's here to stay I'm afraid or else why bother waiting for the medical report ?

To use it as a convenient excuse to avoid outright sacking him?

[UsualSuspect]

Houllier didn't take over until after the season had started. He had to assess O'Neill's squad of players as he went along, some of which couldn't play the more technical style Houllier wanted to impose. He suffered whingeing players who wouldn't or couldn't adapt to this new style, and endured a massive injury crisis to boot, forcing the blooding of young inexperienced players. Who on here would have predicted a cenre midfield of Hogg and Bannan lining up against Manchester United?!
Yes, the guy has made mistakes, including some nauseating PR errors of judgement, but doesn't he deserve a full pre-season this summer, where he can rid himself of the deadwood and troublemakers while bringing in his own men?
If fit and willing, Houllier is a well respected man in the world of football and deserves the opportunity. The time to judge him will be in six months time.

Does he deserve a full summer?

No

he should work just for signed Pires and having him chauffer driven up every every day and then sending bannan out on a pointless loan to leeds, then recalling him and still not doing anything with him.

Add to that the shit tactics in the cup against small heath

add to that Man city - he still doesn't get why we were pissed off

add to that Liverpool away

add to that playing gabby on the wing

If managers got sacked for not doing exactly what a supporter wants there would be a lot of vacancies.

Funnily enough I thought that every supporter wants and expects our manager to try and win every game and to pick the team accordingly.

GH still doesn't understand what the fuss was about which shows someone who is way out of touch with the game and totally oblivious as to what we as Villa fans expect.

[dave.woodhall]

Funnily enough I thought that every supporter wants and expects our manager to try and win every game and to pick the team accordingly.

GH still doesn't understand what the fuss was about which shows someone who is way out of touch with the game and totally oblivious as to what we as Villa fans expect.

Managers pick weakened teams all the time without demands for their sacking - Spurs v Arsenal in the League Cup for example.

[VillaAlways]

If he's deemed fit to work he's here to stay I'm afraid or else why bother waiting for the medical report ?

To use it as a convenient excuse to avoid outright sacking him?

But won't we look rather foolish ? Saying we're waiting for a medical report GH gets the all clear but we sack him anyway !!??

[Concrete John]

If he's deemed fit to work he's here to stay I'm afraid or else why bother waiting for the medical report ?

To use it as a convenient excuse to avoid outright sacking him?

But won't we look rather foolish ? Saying we're waiting for a medical report GH gets the all clear but we sack him anyway !!??

The report won't be open for public viewing, so we can say pretty much what we like about it.  And Gezza won;t contradict us it there's a nice pay off in it for him.  Or maybe thing are worse then we're being told and they pretty much KNOW it'll say he should step down.

[Chris Smith]

I think it's almost certain that he's going to be here next season. I'm still not 100% convinced by him but if that's the decision then I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and see what he can do with a full summer to prepare the squad in the way he wants.

We can all point to instances of things that he did that we didn't like but I wanted at least a mid table finish this season and that's what we got.

[eastie]

Agree totally mr smith!

[dave.woodhall]

Scarily, so do I.

[5ft811st2 Durham]

Funnily enough I thought that every supporter wants and expects our manager to try and win every game and to pick the team accordingly.

GH still doesn't understand what the fuss was about which shows someone who is way out of touch with the game and totally oblivious as to what we as Villa fans expect.

Managers pick weakened teams all the time without demands for their sacking - Spurs v Arsenal in the League Cup for example.

Arsenal were  going for the League title and Champions League. We were mid table with nothing else to play for.

[Ian.]

And me Chris.

[Ger Regan]

I think it's almost certain that he's going to be here next season. I'm still not 100% convinced by him but if that's the decision then I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and see what he can do with a full summer to prepare the squad in the way he wants.

We can all point to instances of things that he did that we didn't like but I wanted at least a mid table finish this season and that's what we got.

Are you inside my brain?

[Mr Diggles]

I can't believe he hasn't gone yet. The owners at Chelsea and West Ham are rightly criticised for numerous reasons but at least they dealt with the manager issue decisively and quickly.

While I would like the situation clarified as soon as possible, I actually like the fact that Lerner and the rest of the Board are treating Houllier like a human being rather than as a chattel or serving boy to be dismissed at the owner's whim or displeasure.

[dave.woodhall]

I can't believe he hasn't gone yet. The owners at Chelsea and West Ham are rightly criticised for numerous reasons but at least they dealt with the manager issue decisively and quickly.

While I would like the situation clarified as soon as possible, I actually like the fact that Lerner and the rest of the Board are treating Houllier like a human being rather than as a chattel or serving boy to be dismissed at the owner's whim or displeasure.

That's another fair comment. Since Randy arrived we've taken pride in the fact that he does things properly. We can't then demand he acts like Gordon Gecko because it might suit us better.