The future of Houllier and McAllister?

[Ad@m]

yep Rafa he is the man, spent hundreds of millions converting a top team into a mediocre team, look at his transfers over the last 4 years, look at how much he spent, he left lpool in as bad a position that MON left us.

Is that why they're 5th and we're 14th?

It's all about getting the right manager, and Kenny's the right manager.  His record in English football is pretty impressive.

So is Howard Kendall's, should we bring him in as manager?

Alright mardy-bum!

I didn't realise it was such a controversial post.

[Matt Collins]

Rijkaard's managerial record:
- Euro 2000 semi-finals with Holland
- 1 yr at Sparta Rotterdam: relegated
- Barcelona - after a stuttering start, 2 league titles in subsequent years, champions league, then a bit of a fall away
- Galatasaray - finished 3rd last year, currently 12th (!!)

My take on him is that his record suggests he can inspire and work well with very talented players; but with less quality he does seem to have struggled quite badly. I'd be pretty worried we'd fare similarly. How the fuck do you take Gala to 12 place in Turkey?

[Risso]

You could argue that Liverpool sacked their manager and got a new bloke in at just about the right time, and look how they've done, so maybe we should have done the same.

However, Liverpool had the advantage of someone who has been associated with the club for 40 years, is loved by the fans, knows the club inside out, and was already actually working there when they brought him back.

We would not have had such an obvious candidate to turn to, so it wouldn't necessarily have been as smooth for us.

Yes but if it hadn't worked out, people would have said that he hadn't managed for ten years, and was a relative failure at both Newcastle and Celtic.

True, but whether a success or failiure we didn't have that logical and fan favourite choice waiting in the wings if Randy pulled the trigger.  Which is why I think we were right to stick with Gezza and then look at it again in the summer.   

It didn't need to be a fan favourite, it just needed to be somebody better than Houllier.

[Villa'Zawg]

Rijkaard, yes, certainly. But whoever it is, here's a list of managers we shouldn't want to see at Villa Park, posted by, erm, some fool.

http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/mcclaren-benitez-and-other-managers-i-dont-want-at-aston-villa/

Cracking article, very funny.

[Mazrim]

Rijkaard's managerial record:
- Euro 2000 semi-finals with Holland
- 1 yr at Sparta Rotterdam: relegated
- Barcelona - after a stuttering start, 2 league titles in subsequent years, champions league, then a bit of a fall away
- Galatasaray - finished 3rd last year, currently 12th (!!)

My take on him is that his record suggests he can inspire and work well with very talented players; but with less quality he does seem to have struggled quite badly. I'd be pretty worried we'd fare similarly. How the fuck do you take Gala to 12 place in Turkey?

So he does better with better players? Isnt that kind of obvious though?
I think the answer is to get him some of these talented players and then... 'appy days!

His record in Turkey is a curious one but not one I'd lose sleep over. Maybe the arid climate made his mouth dry and upset him.
He likes a good spit after all. In Birmingham as well as a moist climate he will be never more than a few yards away from a fast food outlet, newsagents or public house to wet his whistle.

[Dante Lavelli]

Spot on Nev. With MON I always felt he thought we should be grateful for having the great MON as our manager. I want someone to have that sort of desire to make us great, not themselves.

Sounds like you've just described Lambert to me.

[Jimbo]

But whoever it is, here's a list of managers we shouldn't want to see at Villa Park, posted by, erm, some fool.

Bloody hell, I always wondered what happened to him and all the time there he was in front of me. I guess it's understandable as he never used to post the type of bollocks he posts now. (winky)

I was behind you. And you're quite wrong, as I've always posted bollocks on here.

And thanks, Villadawg, it's appreciated.

[Eigentor]

I realize that there will always be someone who is strongly against one candidate, perhaps because they think the person in question will be another MON (Benitez wants complete control over everything) or because they think he'll be another MON (Moyes like to play boring kick and rush). Still the likeliest candidates this time around seem to be of better quality than what was on offer last August, even if the likes of Rijkaard, Van Gaal and Hiddink are still out of reach.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

But whoever it is, here's a list of managers we shouldn't want to see at Villa Park, posted by, erm, some fool.

Bloody hell, I always wondered what happened to him and all the time there he was in front of me. I guess it's understandable as he never used to post the type of bollocks he posts now. (winky)

I was behind you. And you're quite wrong, as I've always posted bollocks on here.

Sure but before you were funny, now you're just a miserable old cnut. I'm torn between you and Risso with my vote on H&V's Drama Queen of the Season Award.

[Jimbo]

But whoever it is, here's a list of managers we shouldn't want to see at Villa Park, posted by, erm, some fool.

Bloody hell, I always wondered what happened to him and all the time there he was in front of me. I guess it's understandable as he never used to post the type of bollocks he posts now. (winky)

I was behind you. And you're quite wrong, as I've always posted bollocks on here.

Sure but before you were funny, now you're just a miserable old cnut. I'm torn between you and Risso with my vote on H&V's Drama Queen of the Season Award.

Nice of you to say so, do I get a crown if I win?

[hawkeye]

Who ever we take as the next manager has to be someone that has a real desire to take this club to its full potential, i dont want "this is a massive club and i am priviliged to be manager" i want a manager to say "there is no limit to what this club can achieve"

[Eigentor]

Who ever we take as the next manager has to be someone that has a real desire to take this club to its full potential, i dont want "this is a massive club and i am priviliged to be manager" i want a manager to say "there is no limit to what this club can achieve"

Unfortunately, good managers tend to be clever. And clever people tend to be careful to manage expectations.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

But whoever it is, here's a list of managers we shouldn't want to see at Villa Park, posted by, erm, some fool.

Bloody hell, I always wondered what happened to him and all the time there he was in front of me. I guess it's understandable as he never used to post the type of bollocks he posts now. (winky)

I was behind you. And you're quite wrong, as I've always posted bollocks on here.

Sure but before you were funny, now you're just a miserable old cnut. I'm torn between you and Risso with my vote on H&V's Drama Queen of the Season Award.

Nice of you to say so, do I get a crown if I win?

Afraid not, the only prize is for all of next next season, the Mods with change your name to 'Jimbo the Drama Queen'. Don't build your hopes up too much, the bookies have Risso down as clear favourite but there's still two games left so do your worst. You may have some serious competition on Sunday though.

[Steve R]

... i want a manager to say "there is no limit to what this club can achieve"

What's Tommy Docherty doing nowadays?

[Toronto Villa]

But whoever it is, here's a list of managers we shouldn't want to see at Villa Park, posted by, erm, some fool.

Bloody hell, I always wondered what happened to him and all the time there he was in front of me. I guess it's understandable as he never used to post the type of bollocks he posts now. (winky)

I was behind you. And you're quite wrong, as I've always posted bollocks on here.

Sure but before you were funny, now you're just a miserable old cnut. I'm torn between you and Risso with my vote on H&V's Drama Queen of the Season Award.

Nice of you to say so, do I get a crown if I win?

Afraid not, the only prize is for all of next next season, the Mods with change your name to 'Jimbo the Drama Queen'. Don't build your hopes up too much, the bookies have Risso down as clear favourite but there's still two games left so do your worst. You may have some serious competition on Sunday though.

Outstanding. I haven't seen the ballot papers but there's a number of solid candidates this season. I have some other match day fainters in mind should there be a need for new suggestions. We shouldn't get them a crown. Maybe a tiara and some dainty slippers.