The future of Houllier and McAllister?

[Phil from the upper holte]

The thing that always used to amuse me about Rafa was when he'd start engaging in "mind games" with Ferguson, only to completely fuck it up and end up making himself look a total tool, as Ferguson effortlessly wound him up.

That and the way he says "cloob". I like that about Spanish people.

Every time you say it, it makes me laugh so its a no from me concerning him. If he did come and results went bad id be happy to hear "your just a fat spanish waiter" being sung from the holte

[pauliewalnuts]

That and the way he says "cloob". I like that about Spanish people.

Did you notice how people say it when you lived over here, Paulie? 'Cleb'. It's almost as though someone once heard the queen say it and, as a result, it has entered the language in that form. Problem is, if you say 'club' then no-one understands you, so you have to pronounce it in this faux-received pronunciation style.

Ha ha, yes.

The best Italian football word is "Il Mister" in reference to managers. Makes me chuckle every time.

I think (may be wrong) it goes to the early days when football in Italy was promoted by Englishmen, who often set up clubs and appointed themselves as manager.

[fbriai]

I think (may be wrong) it goes to the early days when football in Italy was promoted by Englishmen, who often set up clubs and appointed themselves as manager.

I think that has a lot to do with it.

'Il mister' is excellent. The use of 'dribbling' is good too, 'dribblare' and 'dribblatore'.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think (may be wrong) it goes to the early days when football in Italy was promoted by Englishmen, who often set up clubs and appointed themselves as manager.

I think that has a lot to do with it.

'Il mister' is excellent. The use of 'dribbling' is good too, 'dribblare' and 'dribblatore'.

"pressing" too, that one makes me laugh.

do you go to many matches over there?

i used to watch Milan a lot. People go on about our fans getting on players' backs easily, but they're far worse over there.

[fbriai]

do you go to many matches over there?

Not very often. I've been here nearly seven years now and have a soft spot for Roma as it's the team that my father-in-law follows, and I follow what's going on with the local teams, but I've never really been able to get into it in a big way. I think it's mainly because there's no way I can feel the same way about any other team as I do about the Villa - can't afford the emotional investment in it - but also because, now that I've got the family to look after, there are just other things to do. Once the nipper grows up a bit then I'll no doubt get more into it - in the meantime I continue the strict Villa indoctrination programme he's on, poor kid. In addition, we haven't watched the TV for two years now, apart from quickly reading RAI teletext in the morning before going to work, so the only Italian football I get to see is clips on websites, reading the Gazzetta in a bar or talking about it with my colleagues, although several of them would much rather talk about English football.

[Jimmy Rimmer]

I dont mind Houllier giving it a proper crack if his health is up to it. But I very much think it isnt so its neither here nor there.
McAllister is not really cut out for management (including assistant) either although I suspect he'd be a good coach.

Randy will hire a new manager and that manager will be backed as Randy has proven thus far to the tune of circa £30m each year.
That's why so many good managers will be interested, including Moyes, who would have more resources than he's ever had in several seasons combined.

Beneitez is a curious one. You have to respect his record but I cant help but feel he's losing the plot a bit and his most recent history is a bit suspect.
I'm sure he'll be interested and considered though.
I dont really know anything about Quiche Flowers. To be honest I've never heard of him. Obviously he must have some pedigree to be managing Atletico Madrid. Tell him he can have the job if he sticks Aguero in a sack and smuggles him in.

Agree with all of that. I think a fit Houllier could turn us round in time, but I hope he gives up the game for his own sake, and we'll be better off getting someone in quick, someone ideally with top european pedigree or a proven premiership manager, so Moyes, Jol or Quiche Lorraine.

I reckon Moyes is hanging on for the Man United job, though.

[Concrete John]

I reckon Moyes is hanging on for the Man United job, though.

He'd be a fool to as he's never gonna get it.

[Jimmy Rimmer]

I reckon Moyes is hanging on for the Man United job, though.

He'd be a fool to as he's never gonna get it.

He's Fergie's tip for the job... And he normally gets his way.

[Mazrim]

There's more chance of the Statue of Liberty swimming over to central park for a picnic with Osama bin Laden and Elvis than there is of Moyes getting the Man Utd job.
I'll be very suprised if Mourinho isnt their next manager. Moyes doesn't have that kind of clout.

[Jimmy Rimmer]

There's more chance of the Statue of Liberty swimming over to central park for a picnic with Osama bin Laden and Elvis than there is of Moyes getting the Man Utd job.
I'll be very suprised if Mourinho isnt their next manager. Moyes doesn't have that kind of clout.

Most united fans I speak to up here are convinced it'll be Moyes. Don't reckon we'll find out for a few years yet.

[Villa'Zawg]

There's more chance of the Statue of Liberty swimming over to central park for a picnic with Osama bin Laden and Elvis than there is of Moyes getting the Man Utd job.
I'll be very suprised if Mourinho isnt their next manager. Moyes doesn't have that kind of clout.

Mourinho is hot favourite at even money with Victor Chandler. Moyes is equal 2nd favourite on 5/1 with er.... Martin O'Neill. Lauren Blanc and Capello are next on the list at 10/1.

[Greg N'Ash]

not even sure moyes would take the job. Going to be a poisoned chalice following Ferguson

[Jimmy Rimmer]

not even sure moyes would take the job. Going to be a poison chalice following Ferguson

that's why I don't think Mourinho would take it.

Either way, we should get in a Moyes, Jol, Quiche as soon as, so can start planning and building, and avoid another desparate season

[Greg N'Ash]

I think Mourinhio could pull it off as he's a larger than life character like Ferguson. Moyes i think would get swamped by the level of expectation. Whoever takes it will have to deal with being constantly compared to redface and Jose is one of the few with a managerial record in the same class.

[Mazrim]

Mourinho would take it BECAUSE it's a poisoned chalice. His ego would allow him to believe he would be the man to take over from the best manager of all time. And he's probably the only man in the sport currently who could and make it work.

The Glazers or whoever would never hand over the keys to the castle to a man who has never won anything and has no European pedigree.