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Author Topic: The future of Houllier and McAllister?  (Read 377107 times)

Offline oodman

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #315 on: May 05, 2011, 11:01:42 PM »
Go get Paul lambert

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #316 on: May 07, 2011, 02:49:58 PM »
Heard a rumour today that Andy Gray wants thẹ Villa job.

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #317 on: May 07, 2011, 08:06:20 PM »
Heard a rumour today that Andy Gray wants thẹ Villa job.


So do I

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #318 on: May 07, 2011, 08:14:35 PM »
From the Trinity Middle today I counted that Gary Macallister got through more bottles of water than he gave out meaniful instructions. Fact!

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #319 on: May 07, 2011, 08:14:46 PM »
Andy Gray? Not a chance would he get anywhere near it. Although the salary at Talkshite must be a paltry sum compared to Sky.


However, as a number 2, I would take Trevor Francis over Gary Mac. Nice bloke, tough last few year, great player, but he is a coach at best, not a number 2, and sure as hell not a number 1. We were bloody awful, again, today.

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #320 on: May 07, 2011, 08:15:42 PM »
I am 50 50 with Houllier , I think he hasnt helped himself but he has had to put up with some unbelievable stuff this year through no fault of his own.

However, McAlliser, I dont want him near Villa Park come August.

I understand Houllier wanted Phil Thompson and Keve=in McDonald prior to McAllister and after those two turned it down, he had to get someone - but it clearly hasnt worked and never will

Personally I'd put Houllier upstairs and go get Martin Jol and Chris Hughton (or maybe Ray Wilkins) but whatever, I dont want McAllister whoever comes or stays !

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #321 on: May 07, 2011, 08:17:37 PM »
Trevor Bloody Francis? Beelzebub himself? *Takes a very large swig of red wine.*

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #322 on: May 07, 2011, 08:21:27 PM »
Agree with you Paul. I think GH would make a great DoF for someone like Chris Hughton who is a good coach. GH could also have the job to move our academy forward ala Clairefontaine.

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #323 on: May 07, 2011, 08:22:45 PM »
Roberto Martínez... anyone ?

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #324 on: May 07, 2011, 08:29:02 PM »
GH Director of Football, what nonsense, where has this worked when the manager has gone upstairs? Giving a bloke another job because he cant do the one you employed him for is plain stupid and it dosent work. Why restrict your selves to managers that want to work with GH?
The Board should act as soon as the final whistle goes, I would hope they are casting the net out allready. Its time to move on.

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #325 on: May 07, 2011, 08:43:42 PM »
I am absolutely fed up of people suggesting that GH gets 'promoted' to DoF. It just reminds me of people at work who are shit at their jobs so they get promoted into management jobs as they can't do their original jobs properly.

Wipe the slate clean and move on!

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #326 on: May 07, 2011, 08:49:47 PM »
I am absolutely fed up of people suggesting that GH gets 'promoted' to DoF. It just reminds me of people at work who are shit at their jobs so they get promoted into management jobs as they can't do their original jobs properly.

Wipe the slate clean and move on!

Most clubs have it.

Chelsea have it - Liverpool have it , virtually all continental clubs have it - what more evidence do you want.

It may be called something else - I think Camolli is "technical director" but most clubs have it.

In fact Villa were one of the only ones who didnt have this type of set up. Martin ONeill ran all football matters, transfers, contracts  -everything.

Who does the deals at Spurs - I think you will find it is Levy !


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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #327 on: May 07, 2011, 08:56:16 PM »
The end of the season and the sacking of Houllier and everybody associated with him can't come soon enough.  Bleedin' awful again today.

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #328 on: May 07, 2011, 08:59:54 PM »
I've been a supporter of keeping GH troughtout the season, because I think he's a decent manager. Also, I believe his long-term vision (better training, stricter regime, better attitudes, talent development and better scouting) is a better (and more sustainable) road to success than MON's "let's keep spending till we get there".

A lot of the troubles have been caused by things that weren't his making: skeleton's in the cupboard left behind by the previous management (shocking attitude among players, barely any pre-season training etc); no time to assemble a decent coaching team (remember Gary Mac was fourth choice as assistant); the longest injury list in living memory, and so on.

I think there is a good chance that GH will do better next season if his health and the board allow him to carry on. But one of the major disappointments this season is that whenever we have seemed to take a step forward, we have immeadiately proceeded by taking one step back.

However, in the end, it's about results; they have been shocking, and that's the manager's responsibility. When the season ends, we'll need to find a new manager.

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #329 on: May 07, 2011, 09:05:33 PM »
Not only is the DOF option bollox from a working perspective, but what about financially ?
Are we to pay top dollar to 2 people ?
If (hopefully) we tell Houllier that he needs to call it a day, then we should make a clean break.
Its harsh, but we don't owe him anything.

 


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