The future of Houllier and McAllister?

[Dante Lavelli]

I just think that football dynasties are built on continuity and having patience when things aren't going right. I have genuine belief we can turn this round. We need a full close season and pre season. If by the start of November things have not improved I will start a thread with the same title.....

I'd entirely agree with you if the management team had started positively or demonstrated enough ability to buy our trust.  If we gave them another year the club will be that much more Houllier-afied meaning that any new manager will have to spend more to remodel the club in his style.  Not to mention that Houllier due to age and health can't have that many years left in his locker so a change would be due anyway in 2 or 3 more years.

Personally I'd cut our loses and start again.  I'd consider Houllier as an advisor or something.  Or if we can get a man capable of building the club from the bottom up I'd get rid of them completely.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Luke Young and Coker certainly do NOT deserve to be 'shipped out' as soon as. Both are good players who do offer something to the team.

L.Young is a good left-back, he plays in that position well and Coker has put energy back into the midfield. Coker may not be the most skillful and talented of players, but he tries hard and plays hard from start to finish.

I guess 'squad players' then - certainly not 1st teamers per se.

Again, Stewart Downing was the only player willing and talented enough to run at the defence and take them on, something that appears to have been removed from Ash's game.

Agree about Downing we are bloody lucky he's in the form he is. Here's a scary thought - imagine where in the league we would be without him and bent.

Imagine where we'd be in the league if Downing and Ashley could cross. Now that is scarey.

[WikiVilla]

Or if we had a keeper who came off his line once a month

[Holtenderinthesky]

I love it. As soon as we lose a game the knee jerks come out. So boring and so predictable. We lost 2-1 away against probably the best baggies team in 20years with our manager just out of hospital. I suggest some of you go and support Liverpool, you will fit right in. Completely short sighted opinions....

I agree with you.

Maybe was O'leary was right...we are fickle.

What a load of tosh.  Fickle?  Are we all supposed to be happy and pretend nothing is wrong?  I hate the way that fuckin word gets dragged out every time the fans voice their concerns about what is an absolute shambles of a season.  There are enough Spurs fans out there calling us fickle without our own supporters doing so.  What are these "knee jerk reactions" anyway?  We have been in the shit all season, it's not as if people are kicking off over one result, it's the 8 months of bullshit we've had to put up with.

But surely you can understand that is 8months with horrendous injuries, blooding in kids and a section of the squad that is rotten to the core and yet to be dealt with.

I can understand that but our defending, particularly at set-pieces has been awful all season and I believe that if we had a better manager and coaching team we would have sorted it out by now.  Ally that to throwing away 26 points from winning positions, conceding a ridiculous amount of late goals and failing to score from our own set-pieces and you have to ask serious questions of the management and their ability to motivate/coach the players.

[Muscle-Dolphin]

Houllier is too wimpy.  We need someone like Owen Coyle - a guy with a bit of machoism.  If Houllier has any class or dignity, he will respectfully retire using his health reasons.  We have no fire.

[Risso]

I wish Houllier the very best with his health and I hope he has a long and happy retirement, but I don't want to see either him or McAllister at our club next season, they've been an absolute shambles.

[WikiVilla]

Their 2nd goal looked like keystone cops defending albeit i've not seen it on tele yet
How bad was it ? or was it more class from them ?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Or if we had a keeper who came off his line once a month

I guess you missed his top class save in the first half today? And last week. In fact, he's kept us in games many a time this season. Agreed he's poor coming off his line. He drives me crazy when at corners he always pushes the opposition player standing in front of him just as the ball is coming over. It's no wonder he's always at a disadvantage on crosses and corners.

[WikiVilla]

Or if we had a keeper who came off his line once a month

I guess you missed his top class save in the first half today? And last week. In fact, he's kept us in games many a time this season. Agreed he's poor coming off his line. He drives me crazy when at corners he always pushes the opposition player standing in front of him just as the ball is coming over. It's no wonder he's always at a disadvantage on crosses and corners.

I dont deny he's a good stop shopper, but so are most top flight keepers
We need a keeper who will totally dominate his space, Friedel simply does not do that

[Toronto Villa]

I'd like to know when people are going to start pointing fingers at the "professional footballers" we have at the club. The ones that when they get in certain positions cannot do the job. The numerous times players on fifty grand plus a week managed to sky the ball, hit their crosses long, not take shots, mis-hit passes. I don't rate McAllister and I wish GH had got Duverne and Thompson, but not for a second do I think him and Sid are out there Monday to Friday telling the players, or teaching them to do any of that.

[barrysleftfoot]

  If we think LYoung is a good LB, then that is half the problem.

 Lyoung, Dunne, Collins, Petrov , NRC, Heskey, Carew , Warnock ALL need to go.

  NRC is ok, but if he wants £50k, then hes not worth it tbh.Good up and coming players is what we need.Personally i can't wait for them lot to go, so far his record of imports has been good, so i would be quite happy if GH stayed at the club in some capacity, and used his knowledge to bring in young hungry players.

[Legion]

When was the last time we had one that did? Bosnich?

[Muscle-Dolphin]

I watched today's game on FSC in the U.S. and about three times the announcer mentioned that our Villa are Prince William's favorite team.  Maybe he should buy some of Lerner's shares?  At least there would be a pretty decent looker (Catherine) to look at in the stands when we suck.  As an American, (my wife is from outside Dudley) I couldn't believe all the security separating the Villa fans from the Baggie fans... WTF?

[The Left Side]

I don't mnd Houllier moving upstairs but McAllister seems to be the problem, if we do get a new manager they need to bring in their own team and wish G mac all the best.

[The Moose]

Where do we start? Abject surrender. Goal up, coasting. Pires. I hate you McAllister. F**k off.