The Throstles v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[andyh]

I really can't get my head around people blaming Houllier for today's result.

Neither can I but you know they've been lying dormant for the past couple of weeks itching to give it another go. He wasn't at the game but somehow he caused our defeat. I find that kind of thinking borderline mental.

So a manager takes over a moderately successful business and turns it into a shambles. He goes on the sick, leaving the assistant he appointed in charge, and surprise surprise, the business continues to be a shambles. Who do you blame then?

The perfect analogy..

[pauliewalnuts]

I really can't get my head around people blaming Houllier for today's result.

Neither can I but you know they've been lying dormant for the past couple of weeks itching to give it another go. He wasn't at the game but somehow he caused our defeat. I find that kind of thinking borderline mental.

So a manager takes over a moderately successful business and turns it into a shambles. He goes on the sick, leaving the assistant he appointed in charge, and surprise surprise, the business continues to be a shambles. Who do you blame then?

It's hard to argue against that.

Look at where we are now, in isolation to everything that has gone on previously this season, and the very fact that we are still not mathematically safe from relegation with three - THREE - matches remaining is nothing short of a disgrace.

Not just "bad", "poor" or "shit", it is an inexcusable mess that we are in - even thinking about relegation, FFS.

It'd be nice to find an option where the answer is that it is nobody's fault, but there is no such thing, unfortunately.

[olaftab]

I really can't get my head around people blaming Houllier for today's result.

He appointed Gary McAllister.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

McAllister is the senior coach isn't he?

He has to carry the can till Houllier returns.

He doesn't inspire any confidence whatsoever.
He has the look of a man suffering with incurable piles.

[hawkeye]

There is something seriously wrong with the way the team is set up, motivation and the tactics. Today was Mcalisters fault, but it was indicative of the GH GM regime. The whole thing is a mess and considering GH health issues there are no easy soloutions. RL does need to come up with a plan for the summer and the right people to take the club forward.

[Legion]

I wouldn't let him carry my shopping.

[richard moore]

I fucking hate the team, most of the squad, the management. Never seen a team with less collective balls in villa colours. In retrospect it was clear that players would do fuck all for McAllister, and then he further hamstrings us with a retarded substitution. I hope they slash and burn this summer, players and management, and start again, and not in fucking August. If Randy is not decisive this summer in cutting out the shite I will have finally gone from pro to anti. We are where we are because GH/GM was a mistake, which was not rectified, and far, far shitter teams with better managers are making mugs of us all over the place. What a massive pile of fucking shit of a season.

Agree totally. I feel absolutely no attachment to the current set up at all - neither the management team or most of the players. It is quite a while since I have felt so detached and lacking in passion about my beloved club...

[gti2win]

I am fully aware of his record thanks, and my point still stands, gabby is NOT a natural goal scorer for me, his footballing brain is poor, on chances there for the taking more often than not he will fuck it up, compared to someone like bent who i would class as a  natural goalscorer. If we had not of bought bent, we would be well and truly fucked now if we were relying on gabby to score the goals.

Someone makes us an offer in the summer for 8-10m, personally I would take it.

We'll have problems keeping most of our players even if we survive, and here you are advocating selling our leading striker under Mon. Personally I can think of plenty of dire shite in the side I'd prefer sold first, but then I don't have a Gabby thing.

Where have i said I wanted gabby sold first ? No disagreement on there is more shit to be moved on ahead of him from me.

[rob_bridge]

I really can't get my head around people blaming Houllier for today's result.

Neither can I but you know they've been lying dormant for the past couple of weeks itching to give it another go. He wasn't at the game but somehow he caused our defeat. I find that kind of thinking borderline mental.

So a manager takes over a moderately successful business and turns it into a shambles. He goes on the sick, leaving the assistant he appointed in charge, and surprise surprise, the business continues to be a shambles. Who do you blame then?

It's hard to argue against that.

Look at where we are now, in isolation to everything that has gone on previously this season, and the very fact that we are still not mathematically safe from relegation with three - THREE - matches remaining is nothing short of a disgrace.

Not just "bad", "poor" or "shit", it is an inexcusable mess that we are in - even thinking about relegation, FFS.

It'd be nice to find an option where the answer is that it is nobody's fault, but there is no such thing, unfortunately.

Yep that is a good summary and when you look at the fact that only Cit-eh and Bolton have improved on last season and NO club has fallen so far and so fast.
Fact is that any half decent management team would have had this side finishing seventh or eighth especially after spending 0million in the transfer window

[achilles]

I really can't get my head around people blaming Houllier for today's result.

Neither can I but you know they've been lying dormant for the past couple of weeks itching to give it another go. He wasn't at the game but somehow he caused our defeat. I find that kind of thinking borderline mental.

So a manager takes over a moderately successful business and turns it into a shambles. He goes on the sick, leaving the assistant he appointed in charge, and surprise surprise, the business continues to be a shambles. Who do you blame then?

That sums it up perfectly, excellent post!

[WikiVilla]

game changed moment pires set foot on pitch total garbage.

and the moment NRC left the pitch

Clueless management

as for Clarks challenge leading to the equaliser, I'm speechless, no need, stay on your feet FFS

[WikiVilla]

  And why did Friedel go down so quick for their 2nd goal.He did'nt need to.

Cos he's shit !

But he's experienced. And you were telling us all week how important that was. Indeed you did the same today after the game.

Pires is experienced too.

As is that disgrace to the shirt Dunne.

for weeks ive said friedel should be gone and marshall in
ia lso said bannan should have been off th bench for petrov

[rob_bridge]

I fucking hate the team, most of the squad, the management. Never seen a team with less collective balls in villa colours. In retrospect it was clear that players would do fuck all for McAllister, and then he further hamstrings us with a retarded substitution. I hope they slash and burn this summer, players and management, and start again, and not in fucking August. If Randy is not decisive this summer in cutting out the shite I will have finally gone from pro to anti. We are where we are because GH/GM was a mistake, which was not rectified, and far, far shitter teams with better managers are making mugs of us all over the place. What a massive pile of fucking shit of a season.

Agree totally. I feel absolutely no attachment to the current set up at all - neither the management team or most of the players. It is quite a while since I have felt so detached and lacking in passion about my beloved club...

Can't disagree with any of this. An overhaul starting with Falconer, Houllier, McAllister otherwise we will start throwing  good money after bad - likely as not to start with Michael Owen in exchange for Ashley + some.  And there is no way we will hold onto ones we actually want to keep (other than the youngsters).

[WikiVilla]

It seemed to get worse when Pirès came on.

can anyone please explain to me why he even has a squad number ?

[BannedUserIAT]

for weeks ive said friedel should be gone and marshall in
ia lso said bannan should have been off th bench for petrov

Stop talking shit.

Friedel

Walker
Collins
Dunne
Young

Downing
Petrov (c)
NRC
Young

Heskey
Bent

There's your team, set up to win a gritty derby