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Offline not3bad

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #240 on: April 27, 2011, 09:55:48 AM »
However, GH still has to make up his own mind.  I know the temptation for everybody to think of possible alternatives is strong but given the title of this thread I'd like to think that  GH still has some say in what he is going to do and how he sees the future for what is still his team and his squad.  Maybe he can still bounce back.  That's still my preferred option!

Agreed.  Need to see when Ged gets out of hostpital, how he feels and what advice he gets.  Demanding the club 'gets its arse in gear' as regards a replacement before these things happen would be 'indecent haste'.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2011, 10:24:17 AM by not3bad »

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #241 on: April 27, 2011, 10:16:52 AM »
I'd like to see GH get a crack at the new season but its the whole timescale really. Realistically he has to be back by the end of the season as this is a vital summer for us. The best case scenario is the doctor gives him the all clear and say's his health is at least as good as before he went in, but even then i'd imagine they'd want him to have a complete rest for at least a couple of months

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #242 on: April 27, 2011, 10:35:25 AM »
What encourages me about Moyes is that he has modified the style and approach of his teams over the years. Yes, they still offer a physical threat. And have niggly barstewards like Cahill and Fellaini in the side.

But they can play it on the ground too, certainly more so than in his earlier seasons and have made us look like mugs at times in recent years (though the scoreboard hasn't always demonstrated that).

What puts me off is:

(1) Their consistently slow starts to the season. Whether it's due to a lack of preparation/ conditioning in the summer or he whether he just can't a reaction early enough into the campaign I'm not sure. Either way, it's occurred a few too many times to be completely overlooked.

(2) Persisting with absolute shithouses like Neville, Hibbert and Anichebe.

(3) The dourness of the bloke. This might be the most irrational reason of all, but he's hard to listen to for any length of time.

On balance though, I think he probably is the best candidate and should be gettable If we're of a mind to pursue it this time. I don't think it's necessarily nailed on that he'd take some of his better players with him though -that would be too much for Everton to countenance. And I wonder if he can have the desired impact at a different club with a different set of players.

In many ways, the financial constraints at Everton can be viewed as as much of a blessing than a curse. Currently, they're probably the smallest 'big' club in the land. Little is expected because of Kenright and the lack of progress re new investment and 6th/7th can almost be viewed as an achievement.  He won't get that insurance here, at least not past the first year or two.

The think about the Everton sides Moyes puts out is that they are organised, hard working and competitive - get the impression he's a great motivator.  These are the qualities I find most lacking in Gezza.  Where he has a weakness is a limited style of football and no real flare, which may be down to financial constraints, and these are the areas Gezza seems strong in.

So, in many respects a combination of Moyes as manager and Gezza as DOF may be ideal.  Add the idea of him bringing some of his own players in and we may be looking at, in a 4-2-3-1:-

Robinson (Not a Moyes player - just my choice)

Walker
Lescott
Collins
Baines

Fellani
Makoun

Albrighton
Delph
Downing

Bent

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #243 on: April 27, 2011, 10:36:12 AM »
There's certain things he can do from his bed over the next month by delegation ie. release Friedel, return Bradley, offer NRC a new deal etc etc, also if he and GM already have their potential summer targets listed, it'll be over PF to get the negotiations going, so feasibly he could come back July time and we'd be ok

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #244 on: April 27, 2011, 10:40:02 AM »
You can take off the admin burden to an extent, but there's decisions a manager has to make everyday that no-one else can. Doesn't really matter if you're propped up in bed or in an office, its not really a complete rest is it Wiki?

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #245 on: April 27, 2011, 10:40:38 AM »
There's certain things he can do from his bed over the next month

None of which he'd be allowed to do if he's ordered to rest.  Lying in a hospital bed or sitting behind a desk - stress is stress!

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #246 on: April 27, 2011, 10:42:51 AM »
It's a shame that these health problems have came at this time. I felt that GHs methods & signings etc were just starting to show.

I think he'd be great to keep at the club in some sort of advisory role. His scouting network & long term plans were obviously part of the reasons why he got the job, and previously he was said to have revolutionised Liverpool behind the scenes.

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #247 on: April 27, 2011, 10:43:14 AM »
One school of thought is that getting back to work can be the best tonic for ill health.

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #248 on: April 27, 2011, 10:46:11 AM »
There's certain things he can do from his bed over the next month
I can't see why they can't wheel him to the dugout in a gurney, strap him in and prop him up, Hannibal Lector style.

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #249 on: April 27, 2011, 10:49:51 AM »
or a wheelchair with a Recaro seat ?

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #250 on: April 27, 2011, 10:59:52 AM »
Wasn't he ringing with tactics/team formations even when he was at his worst on Fri/Sat according to Gary Mac,I don't think he can stop himself

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #251 on: April 27, 2011, 11:06:45 AM »
To be fair, I'd probably be on the verge of a heart attack if i had to allow GaryMac complete control of the side rather than phoning him up to help.

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #252 on: April 27, 2011, 11:33:20 AM »
To be fair, I'd probably be on the verge of a heart attack if i had to allow GaryMac complete control of the side rather than phoning him up to help.

Chuckles.

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #253 on: April 27, 2011, 12:40:44 PM »
I just don't want a British manager for the simple reason that I can't think of one who'd carry on GH's project with the same sort of idea. In my view, if GH can't continue as manager he needs to go upstairs and he needs to be involved in the recruitment of the next manager. We need someone he can work with, someone with new ideas, someone with a bit of excitement about them.

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Re: Indecent haste?
« Reply #254 on: April 27, 2011, 01:52:31 PM »
If he is available and if we can afford it...maybe we could hire Louis van Gaal.

I can dream.

 


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