0% Villa-BBC drama on Munich air crash.

[dave.woodhall]

While I dislike Man U, the FA forced them to pull out of the FA Cup.

yeah, cus Fergie always does everything the FA says

He has to. They're to blame for so much but this one wasn't their fault.

[bertlambshank]

While I dislike Man U, the FA forced them to pull out of the FA Cup.

yeah, cus Fergie always does everything the FA says

He has to. They're to blame for so much but this one wasn't their fault.

Anybody think the BBC have asked Fergie for an interview?...........Nope.

[The Moose]

Manchester United - what the Off button is for.

[Nev]

For those who think the Beeb are blowing smoke up Manchester Uniteds arse, I'd avoid BBC2 on Thursday evening.

[bertlambshank]

For those who think the Beeb are blowing smoke up Manchester Uniteds arse, I'd avoid BBC2 on Thursday evening.

Why is 2 pints and a packet back on?

[mal]

it is my opinion that this topic has no place on this board.

[myf]

would much rather see a documentary on the FA cup final of the previous year,
 i think the mighty Busby Babes lost, you know the ones that were the greatest ever football team etc
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Actually the BBC did produce a documentary on this a couple of yrs back.  It compared the '57 final with the 2007(?) final.  I seem to recall that Villa had a lot of positive coverage in that.

[E I Adio]

I loath pretty much everything about MU today, as indeed I do about many aspects of the "game" today, so I think it's as well to remember that in 1958, times really were different. There was far more respect for other teams and opposition players based purely on merit and appreciation of footballing skills.

Supporting Villa as a 12 year old I was nevertheless as enthralled by the skills of Johnny Haynes, Nat Lofthouse and Bobby Charlton as I was of Peter McParland, and the Munich disaster was seen by most of the country as just that - a disaster, not because they were from any particular team, but because they had been young, talented, exciting players, who were mostly at the start of their careers.

It was a different time and players were still working class kids who played for the minimum wage and who supporters could easily identify with, regardless of the team they played for.

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

would much rather see a documentary on the FA cup final of the previous year,
 i think the mighty Busby Babes lost, you know the ones that were the greatest ever football team etc

There was a documentary on BBC4 about this a few years ago - possibly 2007, the 50th anniversary.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

it is my opinion that this topic has no place on this board.

Your entitled to your opinion my friend, but I would hope we continue to discuss other football related topics in addition to Ashley Youngs free kicks and Richard Dunnes waistline.

The accepted protocol is to mark the topic '0%Villa' which is what I did.
Having said that, one of our players Stan Crowther joined Man U as part of the need for them to field a 1st team for the rest of that season.

  Stan started out with Aston Villa, with whom he won the FA Cup in 1957, beating Manchester United 2-1 in the final. Less than a year later, in February 1958, Stan had signed for United for £18,000 in the wake of the Munich air disaster, and scored on his debut against Sheffield Wednesday in the FA Cup!

Stan’s signing was remarkable as he wasn’t too keen to leave Villa. Manchester United’s stand-in manager Jimmy Murphy recalls: "Eric Houghton was Villa manager at the time and he had told Stan that we were interested in him. He didn't want to leave Villa, but Eric got him to come to Old Trafford to watch the Sheffield Wednesday game.

“On the way up he told him he thought that he should help us out, but Stan told him he hadn't brought any kit with him. ‘Don't worry, I've got your boots in my bag’, Eric said. We met at about half-past five and an hour before the kick-off he'd signed!"

   

[dave.woodhall]

Without looking it up I think Stan Crowther regretted leaving Villa from the moment he left and was out of football within a couple of years.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

It's also the reason they started to get supporters from all over the country. They don't need any more.

I'd rather see a documentary about something that isn't already so well known. That bloke Friday that used to play for Reading or something like that.

My Mate wrote a book on William Garbutt, 'The Godfather of Italian football'
He went over there and radically changed the Italian game, because of him Italian players still refer to the Manager as 'Gaffer.'

That would make a good documentary.

[mal]

it is my opinion that this topic has no place on this board.

Your entitled to your opinion my friend, but I would hope we continue to discuss other football related topics in addition to Ashley Youngs free kicks and Richard Dunnes waistline.

The accepted protocol is to mark the topic '0%Villa' which is what I did.
Having said that, one of our players Stan Crowther joined Man U as part of the need for them to field a 1st team for the rest of that season.

  Stan started out with Aston Villa, with whom he won the FA Cup in 1957, beating Manchester United 2-1 in the final. Less than a year later, in February 1958, Stan had signed for United for £18,000 in the wake of the Munich air disaster, and scored on his debut against Sheffield Wednesday in the FA Cup!

Stan’s signing was remarkable as he wasn’t too keen to leave Villa. Manchester United’s stand-in manager Jimmy Murphy recalls: "Eric Houghton was Villa manager at the time and he had told Stan that we were interested in him. He didn't want to leave Villa, but Eric got him to come to Old Trafford to watch the Sheffield Wednesday game.

“On the way up he told him he thought that he should help us out, but Stan told him he hadn't brought any kit with him. ‘Don't worry, I've got your boots in my bag’, Eric said. We met at about half-past five and an hour before the kick-off he'd signed!"

   

It's very kind of you to respect my opinion and I too, respect yours and would agree that other football related matters are suitable subjects for discussion. The red scum, beelzebub and all their works, the munich myth and all that surrounds it are not suitable for this board even labelled 0% Villa. Please keep it to the Board labelled Off Topic if only so that  everyone who is sick of their profile is not subjected to it. I come here for Villa related news and views not for updates on manc related lies.

[Dave Cooper please]

Mal, I reckon it would not be beyond even the most intellectually challenged person to realise that a thread labelled "0% Villa-BBC Drama on Munich air crash"  was not going to be about Aston Villa no matter which forum it was in. If you are not interested, don't click on it, and definitely don't post in it to register your disinterest!

[TheSandman]

It's also the reason they started to get supporters from all over the country. They don't need any more.

I'd rather see a documentary about something that isn't already so well known. That bloke Friday that used to play for Reading or something like that.

My Mate wrote a book on William Garbutt, 'The Godfather of Italian football'
He went over there and radically changed the Italian game, because of him Italian players still refer to the Manager as 'Gaffer.'

That would make a good documentary.

Who was the bloke who used to manage us in the twenties or thirties who went across to Mainland Europe to manage? I think he went to an Austrian club. His would be an interesting story too.