Are we safe now?

[Meanwood Villa]

The Wigan game is huge. Our last 2 fixtures are eminently loseable at the best of times so given the complete lack of faith evryone at the club has in GMac (quite rightly) I think we can chalk up 0 points from those games. This means if Wigan keep up the freaky hold they have on us at home we may well be finishing the season with 41 points.
I don't think Blackpool will make it. A lot depends on Wolves and West Ham's results today. If they both lose then it's going to be uphill for them too. Of course if Wigan beat us next week then they'll only be 3 points behind us with West Ham and Stoke to go. Blackburn and SHA are only 3 points behind us already and you'd think they'd manage to pick up one win. Indeed with Blackburn playing Wolves, West Ham and Man U maybe wanting them to have a storming end to the season is  the order of the day, certainly preferrable to wanting SHA to win any game ever.
So it would take a rather unfortunate series of events but my real worry is our role in it, in that a couple of good results will see us fine but I have serious doubts if we can acheive that as we hobble to the end of this horrible nightmare of a season.

[WikiVilla]

If we all play our part and turn Villa Park into a cauldron next week get that Wigan monkey off our back then we can all breathe a sigh of relief
We are going to have to defend properly as Wigan have some players who can hurt you

[VillaZogmariner]

The only way we can go down is if we lose ALL of our games, and out of the following 4 teams 2 of them win ALL of their games and all by a goal margin of 2 goals or more -

Blackpool (Tottenham A, Bolton H, Man Utd A)
Wolves (Blues A, West Brom H, Sunderland A, Blackburn H)
Wigan (Villa A, West Ham H, Stoke A)
West Ham (Man City A, Blackburn H, Wigan A, Sunderland H)

[Des Little]

Next Saturday is massive.  To be honest, a draw will do.  Then  again a clean sheet would be a bloody start.

[marshall]

I spent an hour last night trying to make us go down and I could not do it unless the bottom 4 win games they are not expect to win like West Ham beating City and Blackpool beating United.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Then  again a clean sheet would be a bloody start.

Extremely unlikely.

Although, recalling Cuellar might help, he's far better than fatty Dunne.

[olaftab]

Assume wolves and west ham win today than there will be four teams on played 35 with 35 points. Other than the two mentioned Wigan and Blackpool. For us to go down now  these teams will have to get 7 ponits each from 3 games and us to lose all 3. This is very very unlikey.

[Ads]

Wolves have drawn and West Ham will get smashed into next week.

We're already safe given who the bottom four have to play and how shit they are. I don't think we'll lose to Wigan, in fact, its about time we beat them at home.

[andyaston]

Unless West Ham pull off a shock against Man City its virtually imposssible to go down after those long ball artists drew today.

[marshall]

Points to mathematically be safe - 4

As it stands - 01/05/2011 - 2.03pm

Code: [Select]

                 Pl   GD    Pts
10. Stoke        35   -3    43
11. West Brom    35   -14   43
12. Newcastle    35    0    41
13. Aston Villa  35   -13   41
14. Sunderland   35   -13   41
15. Birmingham   35   -17   39
16. Blackburn    35   -14   38
17. Blackpool    35   -22   35
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18. Wigan        35   -23   35
19. Wolves       35   -23   34
20. West Ham     34   -22   32

Sunday, 1 May 2011
Man City v West Ham

Saturday, 7 May 2011
Aston Villa v Wigan
Bolton v Sunderland
Newcastle v Birmingham
West Ham v Blackburn
Tottenham v Blackpool

Sunday, 8 May 2011
Wolverhampton v West Brom
Stoke v Arsenal
Man Utd v Chelsea

Villa are on 41 points, max points possible

Blackpool - 44
Wigan - 44
West Ham - 44
Wolves - 43

[RossLeach]

I spent an hour last night trying to make us go down and I could not do it unless the bottom 4 win games they are not expect to win like West Ham beating City and Blackpool beating United.

I did the BBC predictor this morning and assumed we lost each game. Even allowing Blackpool to get some points at WHL and TTOD, we stay up by one point. Wigan finish 11th, Spurs 6th.

(I went for 1-1 today at Small Heath and 3-0 to Man City)

[The Situation]

A win against Wigan will make us certainly safe no doubts about that.

Instead of making it a nervous finish to the season we could just comletely elimnate any fears of going down with a win next week. A draw will be worthless, it's time to bounce back from a couple of poor results, lets finish this disappointing season on a somewhat high.

Although it's really important to win next week I don't quite understand why people think we've already lost the last 2 matches. Arsenal certainly aren't 'invincible' at home this, lots of teams, even of less quality than us have gone there and got some sort of a result. Liverpool at home is winnable game too. Of course both will be still tough games, but I wouldn't write both matches off already... I hope.

[SteveD]

It's been a great season. Wigan is a massive game and we're looking over our shoulders at how Blackpool are doing. Can't wait for the season ticket renewal to drop through the letterbox.

[CJ]

Points to mathematically be safe - 4

As it stands - 01/05/2011 - 2.03pm

Code: [Select]

                 Pl   GD    Pts
10. Stoke        35   -3    43
11. West Brom    35   -14   43
12. Newcastle    35    0    41
13. Aston Villa  35   -13   41
14. Sunderland   35   -13   41
15. Birmingham   35   -17   39
16. Blackburn    35   -14   38
17. Blackpool    35   -22   35
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18. Wigan        35   -23   35
19. Wolves       35   -23   34
20. West Ham     34   -22   32

Sunday, 1 May 2011
Man City v West Ham

Saturday, 7 May 2011
Aston Villa v Wigan
Bolton v Sunderland
Newcastle v Birmingham
West Ham v Blackburn
Tottenham v Blackpool

Sunday, 8 May 2011
Wolverhampton v West Brom
Stoke v Arsenal
Man Utd v Chelsea

Villa are on 41 points, max points possible

Blackpool - 44
Wigan - 44
West Ham - 44
Wolves - 43

Wigan and West Ham play each other so they both can't get to 44 points - if they draw their max is 42 (assuming West Ham beat Citeh today). If either wins, their max stays at 44, with  the other's max 41. I think.

[ktvillan]

It is unlikely we will go down but not impossible if we lose next week.  If Wigan beat us they have two relatively easy and winnable games left against West Ham at home and Stoke who will have either just won or lost the FA Cup and possibly have some kind of hangover.  They could therefore quite easily finish above us.  Blackpool need to win two to get 41 points and have two tough away games left so I think it will be very hard for them to do that.   Hammers look to have too much to do unless they spring a surprise at City today.  Wolves last three games are also winnable but it is hard to imagine them winning all three.    So we should be safe even if we lose all three, but please lets get a win next week so I can finally relax my fecking sphincter this season.