Mons tribunal hearing?

[Villa'Zawg]

On the grounds that in the old days balancing the books used to mean if you spent a certain amount on transfer fees some of that at least needed to be recouped from sales. With wages the way they are nowadays if you sell a player for 25 million and buy three eight million pound players it appears like you've balanced the books but you've probably got rid of one bloke earning 50 grand a week and brought in three earning forty grand a week.

"Assuming the deal/s was within the budget and criteria he was given for recruiting players"

[KevinGage]

What if there was a clause in his contract giving him total control over transfers? What if the club altered those terms by insisting on a sell to buy policy? What if he took that as them reneging on a contract and therefore him being entitled to a full payout?

Obviously that's complete speculation but I'm sure it will be a dispute about the terms of his contract.

Depends what you mean by total control.

If you mean that he picks the players to buy, doesn't have targets dumped on him and doesn't have players sold without his knowledge then fair enough.

If you mean that he picks the player and the board (RL) automatically has to cough up regardless of circumstances, I'm not sure how that would work. I can't see many organisations giving someone that much autonomy. It would be a recipe for ruination. 

Ultimately the guy who signs the cheques has a pretty big say in how his money is spent. If he says no -even by proxy- that should be the end of it.

[gervilla]

Can we take him to court for completely fucking up our season ?

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Can we take him to court for completely fucking up our season ?

Must we go through this everytime? How dare he leave a team that has finished 6th three times in a row and reach a cup final and semi-final. Clearly it's all his fault that. The team were really shit and the only reason we finished 6th is because of him, nothing to do with the players...or, GH is not a very good manager, hence the shit season.

[Clampy]

Can we take him to court for completely fucking up our season ?

Must we go through this everytime? How dare he leave a team that has finished 6th three times in a row and reach a cup final and semi-final. Clearly it's all his fault that. The team were really shit and the only reason we finished 6th is because of him, nothing to do with the players...or, GH is not a very good manager, hence the shit season.

Yes, the 'it's all MON's fault' line wore thin months ago.

[gervilla]

Can we take him to court for completely fucking up our season ?

Must we go through this everytime? How dare he leave a team that has finished 6th three times in a row and reach a cup final and semi-final. Clearly it's all his fault that. The team were really shit and the only reason we finished 6th is because of him, nothing to do with the players...or, GH is not a very good manager, hence the shit season.

What about pissing away the whole pre season and fucking off 5 days before the season started.

[glasses]

There have been 37 league football matches since then

[gervilla]

Can we take him to court for completely fucking up our season ?

Must we go through this everytime? How dare he leave a team that has finished 6th three times in a row and reach a cup final and semi-final. Clearly it's all his fault that. The team were really shit and the only reason we finished 6th is because of him, nothing to do with the players...or, GH is not a very good manager, hence the shit season.

Yes, the 'it's all MON's fault' line wore thin months ago.

I never said it was all his fault.
What he did was shit but we also got a clown in to replace him and struggled all season.

[Clampy]

Can we take him to court for completely fucking up our season ?

Must we go through this everytime? How dare he leave a team that has finished 6th three times in a row and reach a cup final and semi-final. Clearly it's all his fault that. The team were really shit and the only reason we finished 6th is because of him, nothing to do with the players...or, GH is not a very good manager, hence the shit season.

Yes, the 'it's all MON's fault' line wore thin months ago.

I never said it was all his fault.
What he did was shit but we also got a clown in to replace him and struggled all season.

I'm sorry, but 'completely fucking up our season' sounds like you were blaming him to me.

[gervilla]

Can we take him to court for completely fucking up our season ?

Must we go through this everytime? How dare he leave a team that has finished 6th three times in a row and reach a cup final and semi-final. Clearly it's all his fault that. The team were really shit and the only reason we finished 6th is because of him, nothing to do with the players...or, GH is not a very good manager, hence the shit season.

Yes, the 'it's all MON's fault' line wore thin months ago.

I never said it was all his fault.
What he did was shit but we also got a clown in to replace him and struggled all season.

I'm sorry, but 'completely fucking up our season' sounds like you were blaming him to me.

So am I alone in thinking his walkout just before the season started and a wasted transfer window ( buying Ireland and no one else has proved to be a major waste) left us completely in the shit ?

[Villa'Zawg]

...
So am I alone in thinking his walkout just before the season started and a wasted transfer window ( buying Ireland and no one else has proved to be a major waste) left us completely in the shit ?

I've always felt the fact we were on 10 points and in 5th place after the first 6 games before Houllier started making changes undermines the argument that we were shit at the start of the season.

[glasses]

It left us in the shit, but the squad and what was left behind was a damn sight better than a team that took 36 games to be mathematically safe from relegation.

[KevinGage]

The events of Aug 9th dogged us for the rest of the campaign.

If the appointment of GH was a mistake (and most would probably concede that now) you have to ask why was such an appointment was necessary in the first place.

It all stems from MON's decision that day, I don't see how anyone could say different.

But GH certainly had enough resources -both in terms of existing players and spending power- to oversee a better campaign than we've witnessed over these past few months.

[gervilla]

The events of Aug 9th dogged us for the rest of the campaign.

If the appointment of GH was a mistake (and most would probably concede that now) you have to ask why was such an appointment was necessary in the first place.

It all stems from MON's decision that day, I don't see how anyone could say different.

But GH certainly had enough resources -both in terms of existing players and spending power- to oversee a better campaign than we've witnessed over these past few months.

Thank you, so I'm not going mad after all.
I also agree that the GH appointment was an almost catastrophic mistake . Thank fuck the footballing genius that is Gary Mc saved us in the end !

[VillaZogmariner]

Had MoN stayed on do I think we'd be where we are now in the table? No

Had MoN quit 5 days after last season finished do I think we'd be where we are now in the table? No

Do I think our current position is entirely MoN's fault? Not entirely, but his inactivity during last summer in trying to get rid of deadwood and his actions of leaving when he did have had a big say in it.