Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[villa1]

whether it was onside or offside, we were denied a stonewall penalty in the second half so i'm surprised no one seems to be mentioning that. motd2 failed to show it as well.

I think that the fact he went down far too easily really didn't help him. I wouldn't have given it either.

[damon loves JT]

Sky rocket = plug socket = davy crockett = not me face wankah

[holte hero]

Fantastic win, great to get the three points. The little ball over the top tactic and lack of desire however is still very concerning.

[Jon Crofts]

3 much need points in the bag, clean sheet, looked like a decent atmosphere as well.

Downside, Joey 'thrush' Barton, an irritating c**t.

[Dr Butler]

I thought Petrov played well yesterday, I've given him some stick but he looked a decent player again.

great result.

UTV
The Doc

[VillaZogmariner]

3 much need points in the bag, clean sheet, looked like a decent atmosphere as well.

Downside, Joey 'thrush' Barton, an irritating c**t.

Maybe so, but I think he'd be the perfect midfield partner for Makoun & Delph.

[Chris Smith]

Very nervous afternoon but we were well worth the win.

On the Makoun debate, he did give the ball away cheapily but his pass for the disallowed 'goal' was the best bit of football of the game so there's clearly something there.

[VillaZogmariner]

Very nervous afternoon but we were well worth the win.

On the Makoun debate, he did give the ball away cheapily but his pass for the disallowed 'goal' was the best bit of football of the game so there's clearly something there.

And about 5 mins later the one/two play with Stan to take the ball from edge of our box to midfield (before giving it to Young) was brilliant too - pass and move from both players, took out 4/5 Newcastle players in one quick move.

[Mazrim]

Definitely a penalty in my opinion.
Taylor clearly pushed him and last I heard, that's a foul.

Can you seriously imagine Bent going down when clear on goal? I cant. So a penalty and a red card.

As for the disallowed goal, well its more contentious than I'd thought but there still must been major doubt and so we could be considered unfortunate not to get the decision. Still, what's done is done.

[Concrete John]

Thing that got me about the 'penalty' was that if he didn't give it Bent should have got a red card for diving.  Went on the sesh after so haven't seen it again on tele yet, but I thought he went down a bit dramatically, which wouldn't have helped.  Yet not booking him or giving the penalty tells me the ref basically bottled it!

As for the rest of the game it seeme to me a very MON like performance.  Lots of endeavour without being overly pretty to watch for the most part, a clean sheet and win it with a set piece.   4-4-2 with Gabby upfront and we even saw a cameo of Carlos at RB. 

[dave.woodhall]

There seems to be some belief that if a player goes down it's either a foul or a dive. It is possible to be challenged fairly and fall over.

[Mazrim]

True, but that wasn't a fair challenge. Maybe in Judo, but not football.

[Concrete John]

There seems to be some belief that if a player goes down it's either a foul or a dive. It is possible to be challenged fairly and fall over.

Correct, unless the player then gets up and appeals for the penalty, which is what Bent did.  I thought  'yes' at the time, but his fall was theatrical and that particular incident was a case of "Penalty or Booking" for me.

[Mazrim]

If our defender pushed a striker over in the box I think this place would be awash with how our defender was stupid and reckless and rightly so.

[Dave Cooper please]

Whilst I wouldn't have put it in quite such extreme terms, I can't help thinking BCV has got something right with his comment about how we'd treat him if he wasn't "one of us".

I think I'd quite like a striker who'd scored for us at Anfield, Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge and The Emirates and had hit double figures in each of his first three seasons even if he was a Small Heath fan. I mean, how many have we had who could boast such a record?

But if said player had had the season Gabby has had many on this forum would be up in arms and there would be comments along the lines of, "Fuck him off, he's finished" "Obviously doesn't want to play for us any more" "Off in the summer, good riddance, swap him for Crouch",

See Young, Ashley.