Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[The Situation]

But his leaning arm is ahead of his right foot and even so his right foot is still level. If you aren't allowed to score with your arm or hand how can you call it offside.

Offside rules are quite suspicious these days because of how inconsistent the calls are by the refs.

I was right behind the goal with a good view in the upper north stand, I had a perfect view. I have been told the Sky commentators said it was onside after numerous replays and just seen MOTD and all 3 agreed it was onside. Most people I've spoken too agree it shouldn't of been disallowed.

Besides, the sun was shining right in the linesman's eyes - how could he possible deny the goal if he couldn't see clearly?

brb calling it offside when i'm not 100% sure.

[OzVilla]

Just so relieved to have got that win. Woke up at 4.30am and lay awake thinking about what the result was before getting up and punching the air.

Monday doesn't half feel better with 3 points in the sky rocket.  Will watch later to check out the 'offside' goal.

UTV.

[Louzie0]

The photo isn't helpful because it shows that he is offside.

Apparently.

But the ball - is this right? is the little white blob between Darren and the goal.  He's clearly moving after it, hence the goalward right leg moving beyond the defender, on his way to chase it.
Where was that leg when Makoun actually played the ball?   (in relation to the defender's position, apart from, 'attached to Darren Bent'.)

The linesman thought it was already past the defender.  Without the photo of the ball on the end of Makoun's boot and Bent's position then it's not clear.

And we WON!!!!

[Greg N'Ash]

But his leaning arm is ahead of his right foot and even so his right foot is still level. If you aren't allowed to score with your arm or hand how can you call it offside.

Offside rules are quite suspicious these days because of how inconsistent the calls are by the refs.

I was right behind the goal with a good view in the upper north stand, I had a perfect view. I have been told the Sky commentators said it was onside after numerous replays and just seen MOTD and all 3 agreed it was onside. Most people I've spoken too agree it shouldn't of been disallowed.

Besides, the sun was shining right in the linesman's eyes - how could he possible deny the goal if he couldn't see clearly?

brb calling it offside when i'm not 100% sure.

you may well be right but you can't tell from that picture because of where it was taken from. Similarly you wouldn't have much chance of judging an offside from behind the goal. thats why the linesmen are on the sides :0)

[oldtimernow]

Just got back to Blighty, great result but will catch up with reports after a nights kip....no sleepless night anyway that's an improvement

[astonvillan]

whether it was onside or offside, we were denied a stonewall penalty in the second half so i'm surprised no one seems to be mentioning that. motd2 failed to show it as well.

[eamonn]

What, for Taylor's little shove on Bent? Come on, if it had happened to us we would have been calling the Barcoder a poof.
Nowt wrong with a bit of physical defending. Thank God, otherwise Dicky Dunne would be penalised every time the ball goes near our goal.

[eamonn]

Monday doesn't half feel better with 3 points in the sky rocket. 

3 points in the what now?

[olaftab]

I don't agree with BBC Digital's report that says Newcastle were the better team in the first half and that we scored 'against the run of play.'

Bullshit.

Newcastle were  much the better team in the first half however we were  in control  in the second half and deserved our win.

[baldryk]

I thought that it was both offside and the wrong decision to call it offside.

The lines in the grass show that Bent's foot is nearer the goal than the defender's nearest ball-legal anatomy. From the TV replays, that screen shot is about right for when Makoun made the pass.

However, it's not Simon Taufel calling a LBW. An AR can't possibly spot a foot 15cm closer to goal when players are moving in opposite directions and there are three things to watch. A better call would have been to give the benefit to the attacker. But I thought it technically correct all the same.

The non-penalty on the other hand was I reckon a poor call. The replays showed that the best angle to see the elbow go into Bent's side was probably the ref's.

[Simba]

Monday doesn't half feel better with 3 points in the sky rocket. 

3 points in the what now?

Cockney rhyming slang, me old china (plate). Sky rocket = pocket.

[ROBBO]

Still don't believe the players gell together, most are good players in their own right but they just dont play well together.
Lets give the defence a little praise after all the stick the've taken lately.

[Jimbo]

I thought we'd win one-nil, and we did. Nobody's expecting great football, but some effective football is what we need now. We got it to a certain degree because we won the match, but all this passing it among ourselves in front of our own box business is not the way forward. Better or more motivated teams will have the measure of that. We're poor, and I see no signs that we're about to become the slightly better than average team we probably should be any time soon. That said, it was a result the size of a walrus.

[*shellac*]

3 points.  Clean sheet.  Great!

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Regarding Collins, the BBC website says he won 16 aerial challenges against Newcastle, the most in the Premier League at the weekend.