collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

Pre season 2025 by Rigadon
[Today at 06:20:49 PM]


Other Games 2025-26 by Deano's Mullet
[Today at 06:11:55 PM]


Francesco Calvo - President of Business Operations by Stinkin_Thinkin
[Today at 05:34:06 PM]


George Hemmings by PaulWinch again
[Today at 05:15:26 PM]


Where will Villa finish 2025/26 by aj2k77
[Today at 05:07:27 PM]


Villa Park Redevelopment by aj2k77
[Today at 04:58:05 PM]


Aston Villa vs Newcastle pre-match thread by Legion
[Today at 04:05:54 PM]


The nearlywases - Bobby Campbell by MillerBall
[Today at 04:03:22 PM]

Recent Posts

Re: Pre season 2025 by Rigadon
[Today at 06:20:49 PM]


Re: Pre season 2025 by Brend'Watkins
[Today at 06:14:29 PM]


Re: Other Games 2025-26 by Deano's Mullet
[Today at 06:11:55 PM]


Re: Francesco Calvo - President of Business Operations by Stinkin_Thinkin
[Today at 05:34:06 PM]


Re: Other Games 2025-26 by garyellis
[Today at 05:28:50 PM]


Re: Other Games 2025-26 by Rudy Can't Fail
[Today at 05:28:21 PM]


Re: Other Games 2025-26 by Villa Lew
[Today at 05:22:06 PM]


Re: Other Games 2025-26 by Pete3206
[Today at 05:16:10 PM]

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Referees  (Read 6232 times)

Online Legion

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 59465
  • Age: 54
  • Location: With my son
  • Oh, it must be! And it is! Villa in the lead!
    • Personal Education Services
  • GM : 05.04.2019
Re: Referees
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2011, 09:38:40 PM »
Spot on, Brian.

Offline hawkeye

  • Member
  • Posts: 8973
  • GM : Jun, 2012
Re: Referees
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2011, 09:45:49 PM »
Good Post BG, I was talking with some vets footballers about this. There are refs that want to get involved in the game, Dowd is a classic example, loves himself. The job is to apply the Laws of the game.
Not to try and influence the outcome, to see each incident on its merits and apply the laws. Its not about building relationships with players and managers just give the decision.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

  • Member
  • Posts: 26039
  • Location: Up and down, i'm up the wall, i'm up the bloody tree
Re: Referees
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2011, 08:23:46 PM »
It all started getting out of hand when the referees became celebrities in their own right.

It the old days it was just a bloke in black, now they are as well known and as well publicized as the players and they love it.   The officiating and control of a game of football should be as robotic and detached as possible.   Bad foul in the first thirty seconds - red card, Man U defender pulls shirt of opponent in the box in the last minute of injury time and Man U leading one nil - penalty.   No emotion, no interpretation, no balancing things up, just a robotic and consistent application of the rules of the game.   End of.

It is only when referees are allowed discretion to amend or vary the strict interpretation of the game that all this shambles gets a hold.   If you treat referees like celebrities they will act like celebrities.

If you pay a plumber to mend a burst water pipe in your loft you don't praise the way he extended the loft ladder or rolled back the loft insulation.   It's his job.   Find pipe.  Mend pipe.  Go home.   It should be the same with referees.
Spot on Brian.

Offline nicardinho

  • Member
  • Posts: 594
  • Location: The Land of Blind Hope
Re: Referees
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2011, 09:12:20 PM »
To all those saying referees should keep a low profile - that died the day someone decided fluoro-pink and yellow shirts would be appropriate.

To be honest, 99% of referees don't want to be stars. There is nothing worse (as a referee) than reading a match report and seeing your name in it. Of course there are those who wish they were still playing and always try to appease players at the expense of the laws, and the other extreme of zero-tolerance. There is a comment further up this thread: 'Its not about building relationships with players and managers'. To an extent I agree with this, but it is important to build a *repectful* relationship with the club - after all, you'll probably have to referee them again! This doesn't mean favouring them, but it does mean having a dialogue on the pitch, and sharing jokes etc. This can come across as 'over-familiarity', so it is a fine line to negotiate.

On another note, and one that is particularly irritating to me, it seems all too easy at grassroots level to say 'but Rooney does it, so why can't we?'. The managers all too often neglect their responsibility to promote good behaviour, with comments designed purely to incite his players against the match officials. This is much more damaging to young players than TV.

Online Legion

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 59465
  • Age: 54
  • Location: With my son
  • Oh, it must be! And it is! Villa in the lead!
    • Personal Education Services
  • GM : 05.04.2019
Re: Referees
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2011, 09:15:40 PM »
Rooney is a disgrace. See his camera actions today.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal