England Cricket Thread 2011

[PaulWinch again]

I think we can also call a close to the Ravi Bopara experiment.

[Colhint]

yup

[TheTimVilla]

And Samit Patel.

129 for 0 to 176 all out. What a joke.

[PaulWinch again]

Terrible performance, terrible tour. We look woefully lacking in class without KP and Morgan in the batting line up. Moving forward I think my first 11 if you keep Cook as captain would be -

Cook
Kieswetter
Pietersen
Bell
Morgan
Taylor
Stokes/Buttler/Bairstow
Broad
Bresnan
Swann
Finn

I believe Kieswetter can make, as he demonstrated with the bat today. Finn was the big positive of this tour. The rest was an utter shambles and the behaviour of the team was abysmal. Also maybe Swann wants to leave books alone, his performance was poor all summer and he was terrible on this tour.

[PaulWinch again]

You'd also be left with Borthwick, Hales, Anderson, Dernbach around the squad.

[Dave Cooper please]

Put this tour down to a combination of far too much cricket, very poor captaincy and our continuing inability to cope with sub-continent pitches in one-dayers, then learn the lessons and move on.

Need to replace Cook as captain, I just don't think he has it, brilliant batsman, will be opening in the tests for many years to come, but not a captain. Wonder if Swanny or Morgan fancy the job?

[PaulWinch again]

I'd rather have Morgan as captain if we are replacing Cook. Swanny tends to get too frustrated with his team mates. Plus Morgan could theoretically be captain for years, he's pretty young.

Also Flower post match interview was very frank and honest I'm sure he'll sort it out.

[spangley1812]

Shambles of a tour really, outclassed and outplayed

Swann needs to get his head down, Cook nice guy and great test player but not a one day player and a poor captain
Dernbach, Bopara very poor

Captaincy to Bell or Morgan ASAP

The only plus point was Finn

[TheTimVilla]

After Saturday, they've got 2 months to bang a few heads together. I don't think we're technically inferior, but some of the players didn't seem to thrive on the pressure or the atmosphere.

[Villan For Life]

Put this tour down to a combination of far too much cricket, very poor captaincy and our continuing inability to cope with sub-continent pitches in one-dayers, then learn the lessons and move on.

Need to replace Cook as captain, I just don't think he has it, brilliant batsman, will be opening in the tests for many years to come, but not a captain. Wonder if Swanny or Morgan fancy the job?

I pretty much agree with this. I do wonder if the tour had an end of term feel about it. They've now got two months off and the warm beaches of the southern hemisphere will be calling. Cook is too much of a nice guy to clamp down on this sort of carefree attitude.

We need to stick with the kids but I'd reconsider Kieswetter. He makes far too many mistakes with the gloves and his batting doesn't give us a solid start often enough.

Replace Cook and give the job to Swann or Bell. I'm slightly biased to a Bear/fellow Villa fan but when he captained the Bears in the CB40 final in 2010 he was excellent, totally outthought Trescothick who is an experienced skipper.

All in all as we demolished Indian on our pitches it's no massive surprise that they did the same to us on their pitches.

[PaulWinch again]

I think Morgan has to be the captain if you replace Cook, because he is pretty much the only one you'd look at and say he'll definitely 100% play. I guess you could say the same with Swann, but he tends to show dissent to teammates too much.

[PaulWinch again]

Well done boys, still the best Test and Twenty20 team in the World. Just need to sort out the 50 over stuff.

[PaulWinch again]

I'd also say KP is clearly still a class act.

[The Left Side]

Finally a win for England, well done the lions.

[taylorsworkrate]

I think its a little early to be writing Cook off.  Far more experienced captains have taken maulings in India, English and Non English.
I'm confident that Andy Flower will pick the bones over this tour and sort it out.

Lets not forget that Cook captained England to series victorys over the no 2 and no 3 ODI sides in the summer.