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Offline taylorsworkrate

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #525 on: July 31, 2011, 04:08:57 PM »
Blimey, scratch every bad word i've just said about India.

That shows great decency and i'm an idiot.

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #526 on: July 31, 2011, 04:09:36 PM »
I still think it's the right decision overall.

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #527 on: July 31, 2011, 04:10:01 PM »
Seems the appeal has been withdrawn, or at least the dismissal has been rescinded.

If that's MS Dhoni's decision then that's great and to his credit.  If the umpires have decided they can't give it out, then I can understand that too.

Some of the crowd have been made to look a bit daft.

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #528 on: July 31, 2011, 04:10:04 PM »
Looks like he's withdrawn that appeal.

Strange goings on, really. Probably for the best, but I still think Bell can consider himself fortunate; he made a mistake and was, perfectly legally, punished.

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #529 on: July 31, 2011, 04:11:24 PM »
Absolutely fair play to India.  Well done indeed.

Another point is that is does seem rather silly that there wasn't an announcement made to the crowd during tea, would have done away with the booing and my emotional ramblings.

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #530 on: July 31, 2011, 04:12:26 PM »
Well done Dhoni, but was Bell attempting a 4th run though

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #531 on: July 31, 2011, 04:14:21 PM »
Seems the appeal has been withdrawn, or at least the dismissal has been rescinded.

If that's MS Dhoni's decision then that's great and to his credit.  If the umpires have decided they can't give it out, then I can understand that too.

Some of the crowd have been made to look a bit daft.

The thing is though, that the crowd doesn't look to have been informed at any stage.  Either when he was initially given out or why, and they weren't informed that Dhoni had taken the appeal back.  If they had been, the Indians would have been met with cheers.

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #532 on: July 31, 2011, 04:14:51 PM »
Well done Dhoni, but was Bell attempting a 4th run though

As Bumble and Athers have just discussed, as Bell was approaching him, Morgan made sure his bat was grounded, so he knew that the ball hadn't been called dead.

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #533 on: July 31, 2011, 04:15:47 PM »
Anyway, the right thing has happened, well done to India.

Now lets get back to an excellent test match.

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #534 on: July 31, 2011, 04:21:22 PM »
[quote author=taylorsworkrate link=topic=42904.msg1855476#msg1855476
The thing is though, that the crowd doesn't look to have been informed at any stage.  Either when he was initially given out or why, and they weren't informed that Dhoni had taken the appeal back.  If they had been, the Indians would have been met with cheers.
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Well quite, but some of the crowd had assumed the worst without any hard info.  Which is what made them look foolish.

As to the dismissal itself, I rather think Asad Rauf believed it was over; Bell clearly though Rauf had called over.  We can't be certain of that but given the uncertainty, and given the effect it might have had on relations between the two sides, I think the umpires and the skippers got together at tea and agreed not to give Bell out.

Very sensible, good for the game and the series.

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #535 on: July 31, 2011, 04:23:09 PM »

After all that, it never happened.

Dhoni's withdrawn the appeal, so Bell's back in.

No one's coming out of this well, clumsy by Bell, messy by the Umpires and wimpy from Dhoni

I disagree. The Umpires acted by the letter of the law and Bell was careless. Dhoni comes out of this with a lot of credit and deserves praise for acting in the spirit of the game.

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #536 on: July 31, 2011, 04:26:14 PM »
This from cricinfo:

"Another update, reportedly from Jonathan Aggers on TMS: Strauss and Flower went to the Indian dressing room at tea and asked Dhoni if he would withdraw the appeal. And Dhoni consented. The umpires did not have a part to play in it. "

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #537 on: July 31, 2011, 04:26:55 PM »

After all that, it never happened.

Dhoni's withdrawn the appeal, so Bell's back in.

No one's coming out of this well, clumsy by Bell, messy by the Umpires and wimpy from Dhoni

I disagree. The Umpires acted by the letter of the law and Bell was careless. Dhoni comes out of this with a lot of credit and deserves praise for acting in the spirit of the game.


That's my view on it as well.

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #538 on: July 31, 2011, 04:27:34 PM »
BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew on Twitter: England captain (Andrew Strauss) and coach (Andy Flower) asked India to reconsider their appeal. India agreed to think about it, and then withdrew the appeal."

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Re: England Cricket Thread 2011
« Reply #539 on: July 31, 2011, 04:27:53 PM »
[quote author=taylorsworkrate link=topic=42904.msg1855476#msg1855476
The thing is though, that the crowd doesn't look to have been informed at any stage.  Either when he was initially given out or why, and they weren't informed that Dhoni had taken the appeal back.  If they had been, the Indians would have been met with cheers.
Well quite, but some of the crowd had assumed the worst without any hard info.  Which is what made them look foolish.
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Yeah fair point.  Its not often you see a cricket crowd like that though, and its quite funny to see the reaction change so quickly.

 


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