England Cricket Thread 2011

[spangley1812]

My team would be

Trott
Bell
KP
Morgan (c)
Taylor James
Bopara
Foster
Bresnan
Swann
Anderson
Tremlett

[taylorsworkrate]

My team would be

Trott
Bell
KP
Morgan (c)
Taylor James
Bopara
Foster
Bresnan
Swann
Anderson
Tremlett

That would be a little harsh on Cook having just scored a Hundred.  Granted it wasn't a quick hundred, but you'd take that innings every time.

Its not Cooks fault the other batsmen failed to bat adequately around him.

[cheltenhamlion]

Decent, aggressive batting around Cook was what was missing.

As for the bowling, there is something about Dernbach that makes me feel there is a proper player in there. I don't what it is, I just have a feeling.

[Villan For Life]

We lack one day "finishers", batsmen who can come in with 10 overs to go and really push the score on. The gaps between boundaries in our innings was pitiful. At one point we hadn't scored a boundary for over 10 overs.

We also need to heed the lessons of Twenty20. Successful 20 over sides have two or three spinners who can take the pace off the ball thus making it difficult to score. For some reason we pack our sides with seamers.

[cdbearsfan]

We're underdogs in this one...

[TheTimVilla]

I think it's generally accepted that teams build their ODI calendars around the World Cups; tinkering with the side to get the best possible squad for the big tournaments. Why then do we piss about with the XIs for each & every match in the finals, but then go unchanged at the very beginning of the next cycle, when nobody will ever remember who won the series? We know what players like Anderson are capable of (first match, great figures, second rubbish, third bad figures, but not reflecting how well he's played). Why pick Woakes, Patel, etc and not play them. Why pick Wright in the squad at all?! How are we preparing for the future with this bland bunch of predictable toot?

[pooligan]

Outplayed,Outclassed. Shows how bad we are when the guy Mathews turns down runs so the other one can reach his century.Time for some changes.For a start Bell should be higher up the order,its a disgrace he has to come in at number 6 . I also think Tremlett and Finn should be in there in place of Anderson and Broad on present performances

[VillaZogmariner]

Outplayed,Outclassed. Shows how bad we are when the guy Mathews turns down runs so the other one can reach his century.Time for some changes.For a start Bell should be higher up the order,its a disgrace he has to come in at number 6 . I also think Tremlett and Finn should be in there in place of Anderson and Broad on present performances

You mean in place of Anderson who got man of the match in the first match?

[TheTimVilla]

He was terrible in the second match though. I'd keep Jimmy for Test matches. Why risk burnout for him?

[hilts_coolerking]

Kumar Sangakkara delivered the 2011 Cowdrey Lecture at Lord's on Monday evening and it was quite brilliant: a social, political and personal history of Sri Lanka and Sri Lankan cricket.  He's particularly good on the impact of their 1996 World Cup win, the tsunami and the terrorist attack on the team bus.  It's really interesting and occasionally quite moving.  Got a standing ovation apparently.

You can hear it via the Lord's website here: http://mcc.sportslinemedia.co.uk/  Well worth a listen.

[pooligan]

That is the Anderson i mean Villasubmariner, the one with the 2011 one day games bowling record,   of 12 matches,15 wickets for a average of 42.46. Dont dispute he is a good bowler when there is low cloud cover and the ball is swinging all over the place but when conditions are fine ie,a nice sunny day, in my opinion and the ex pros i listen to on TMS he just is not good enough

[Villan For Life]

That is the Anderson i mean Villasubmariner, the one with the 2011 one day games bowling record,   of 12 matches,15 wickets for a average of 42.46. Dont dispute he is a good bowler when there is low cloud cover and the ball is swinging all over the place but when conditions are fine ie,a nice sunny day, in my opinion and the ex pros i listen to on TMS he just is not good enough

They're also using different balls in the one day series. Rather than a traditional white Dukes or Readers, they're using a Kookaburra which does not swing as much.

Also the mandatory changing off balls after 35 overs will affect a bowler like Anderson. If you've worked on the ball for 30 + overs and one side is pretty well shined and starts to reverse. You then have to change the ball and start again. It was evident on Sunday. Anderson began to get some reverse swing. The ball was changed and it stopped reversing.

[Fergal]

I will be at Trent Bridge for the next one.  Due to work commitments I will be there a bit late, I hope  there will be a bit of cricket left for me to watch...

[taylorsworkrate]

That is the Anderson i mean Villasubmariner, the one with the 2011 one day games bowling record,   of 12 matches,15 wickets for a average of 42.46. Dont dispute he is a good bowler when there is low cloud cover and the ball is swinging all over the place but when conditions are fine ie,a nice sunny day, in my opinion and the ex pros i listen to on TMS he just is not good enough

 
It was hardly low cloud cover during the ashes.  In fact Anderson performed brilliantly in many a nice sunny day during that series.

The ball swings all over the place because Anderson makes it.  To get the ball to swing both ways at a good pace is something less than a handful of bowlers can do.

[pooligan]

Sorry  Taylorsworkrate, but is'nt the Ashes 5 day games and completely different to the one day game that we are talking about. Correct me if i am wrong but did'nt the aussies thrash us in the one day matches after the Ashes and Anderson struggled then i belive.